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16 replies

brownbeauty · 21/10/2018 17:41

Hi all
How much money would you need to get one child through university?
We have 10k saved up and eldest child of two is 15
Showing potential uni student signs eg very bright sensible etc etc
What grants or loans would be available.
Typical weekly figures of renting would be ideal if any of you can help
It would help me budget for more savings if this won't be enough.
I panic at the thought of having a bright child but no funds to educate them further.
Much love

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GnomeDePlume · 21/10/2018 17:57

Where are you based? Where would you expect your DC to go to university?

If the answer to both the above is England then there is a student loan system currently in place. This system would lend full course fees plus a maintenance loan (to cover accommodation, food etc).

How much the maintenance loan would be would depend on your household income. There is an assumption that parents will make up the shortfall.

Accommodation can vary hugely in price depending on where the student is studying. London is expensive as you would expect.

A lot of people panic at the idea of student debt. Think of it as a student tax. Loan repayments start once the student's salary reaches a certain threshold, currently £21,000 and then the repayments are calculated on the amount above that threshold.

There is lots of advice available online.

HerRoyalNotness · 22/10/2018 02:51

I have about the same saved up and have calculated that giving 600 at start of term to get set up then 200-250 a month to help with expenses. The rest should be covered by loan for fees and maintenancd loan for accom. Plus any part time work they can do.

frenchfancy · 22/10/2018 06:16

If they get the minimum maintenance loan then you need about 5k per year. Depending on the course they do they can earn some of it themselves with a pt job.

Rascallsall · 22/10/2018 07:47

Both of mine had the minimum maintenance loans and we paid for their accommodation. The maintenance loans paid for everything else. This seemed to be a fairly common way to manage finances for reasonably well off families. In Bristol we spent around £500 a month and in London £800 a month for accommodation from year 2 onwards. For the first year the Bristol University's catered hall dd1 lived in is currently £7,500 and dd2's London self-catered TINY room is over £8000. We didn't save up beforehand but somehow managed to stretch the family finances to cover it. In the end I think we spent £60,000 on the two of them 

Rascallsall · 22/10/2018 07:53

The  was lost at the end of my post! It is a staggeringly huge amount of money!! Eldest did have various part-time jobs in Bristol but dd2's degree didn't give her a huge amount of spare time.

Rascallsall · 22/10/2018 07:55

Mumsnet emojis not posting 🤷‍♀️ There were some 😮 in the above!

Unihorn · 22/10/2018 08:01

When I was at university my maintenance loan just covered my accommodation so I got a part time job 20 hours a week to pay for food and lifestyle bits. I went to university in Wales so the costs were a lot lower however!

DerelictWreck · 22/10/2018 08:11

Recently left uni and parents did as pp suggests - paid my accom while I lived off my loan. I also worked in Sainsbury's to supplement it so I could afford holidays etc.

Rent in Manchester halls was about £100pw for ensuite self catered accom, but you could drop down to £70 for the cheaper stuff. Accom always cheaper once you're out of halls and into student houses.

Given the accom prices at 45 weeks a year (roughly what your contract will be) it's £4500 a year to support one child just for accommodation

Bellabutterfly2016 · 22/10/2018 08:18

My step kids (24 and 19) both went to the local universities and lived at home. One a bus ride and one a train ride. They were only required to be in lectures/seminars between 12-16 hours a week so both my partner and his ex said that paying for accommodation in another city was a total waste of money for so few hours.

This is what happens in most European countries, the uk seem to have this obsession with sending kids all over the country! If the local ones have a suitable course, why waste money?

Stepson graduated already stepdaughter in 2nd year.

It means we can help them more plus they aren't starting life off with so much debt.

They have also both had part-time jobs and employers prefer employing students who are local and stay all year round too.

CherryPavlova · 22/10/2018 08:36

I think it entirely depends on several things but for most people it’s achievable. There is undoubtedly student poverty and some youngsters struggle through their degrees, so parental support is a huge bonus.
Lots of parents (us included), pay more than absolutely necessary but equally some get very little help from parents.
What does it cost?

Tuition fees are covered by a loan for first degrees in England. It’s about £9, 000 a year at moment but this may change. Repayment doesn’t start until after you’re earning above a certain amount- I think it’s £21k. The only problem from this is if you drop out and get landed with loan repayments for a degree you haven’t completed or if you want to change degrees after a couple of years when a further loan may not be possible. Those working towards NHS vocational degrees like medicine only pay for first four years tuition.
There are bursaries and grants available for many universities for high achievement, students from poorer backgrounds, to support disabled students and to improve access for a more diverse cohort (so maybe first generation in family to attend from a BME background). These are down to individual universities but generally listed deeply hidden in admissions booklets.

Then there are living expenses. It’s impossible to quantify because it varies depending on so many factors. Living at home is obviously cheaper and increasing numbers do but this has to be balanced against missed opportunities for personal growth and a wider experience.
Some areas are definitely cheaper than others re housing. Stoke on Trent and Hull are significantly cheaper than Exeter or London.
Halls vary and their is often a choice but no guarantee you’ll get a choice. Our experience is the more expensive halls are harder to get into.Lots of universities don’t have sufficient accommodation for all but most try to put all first years who want a room into hall.

I think we paid a deposit of £300 and then about £7.5k for an on-site, ensuite catered hall two years ago. This was the most expensive option as ours is a daddy’s little princess. It could be cheaper by being self catering, sharing bathrooms or moving to off campus halls. She didn’t really use the catering fully as it didn’t fit in with her plans and there is a good Deliveroo but it felt like a safety net to prevent claims of starvation. Laundry was extra but not expensive. Birmingham was definitely cheaper and I think we paid £4k for non catered similar standard room but that was about eight years ago.

Some degrees allow for part-time working without any difficulties because there are only 9/10 hours contact time per week. Others (particularly vocational degrees) make it unrealistic to work alongside in paid employment. Some do but it’s the exception. Obviously this impacts on parental support needed.

Then add in travel costs (a car was essential for medical school to get to placements and flights to placement are essential if studying languages). Add in insurance, books, laptop, maybe tv licence, overnight stays if you visit and it adds up. We were told our daughter needed £4K minimum to start a year abroad whilst waiting for Erasmus funding as Italian government insisted they had sufficient resources t to survive initially.

We give a generous allowance but others get more. Meanwhile others struggle on the loan. It’s impossible to quantify without knowing specifics. We give a basic allowance of rent costs (Exeter was £750 a month for a shared house), living costs £100 week approx plus we pay travel, books, phone, insurance, contact lenses and go down a couple of times a term for a weekend and take her and a few friends out to supper etc. This is topped up by her father a few times a term for special things like ballgowns/dresses or weekends away with friends (but he thinks I don’t realise). I do a big online shop a few times a term too.
It can be done much cheaper and we know we indulge her!

GnomeDePlume · 22/10/2018 11:24

Bellabutterfly2016 it is a big if the local university is the right one. Certainly in the UK, reputation of institution matters. Our local university is not high ranked and does not offer a good range of science courses.

The debt is the thing which seems to panic people. It is a big number but the repayments dont start until the student salary reaches £21k.

We are now supporting DD2 in her first year. Her maintenance loan doesnt fully cover the accommodation cost so we make up the shortfall and pay £50/week to cover food and social spends. We pay her phone contract £17/month and £36/month for a city bus pass (halls quite a way from uni).

DD2 is finding that the pressure of the coursework is limiting her opportunities for extravagant socialising (every cloud!) but also for getting a part-time job.

brownbeauty · 22/10/2018 15:38

Thanks to all for the replies.. so I guess it's all varied around the country n income etc etc.. I'm in Manchester with a few good universities close I hope son n daughter both decide to stay home n study further.. I'll let them eat beans on toast at home if they want the full effect.. jokes aside thanks for all the info..
much love

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GnomeDePlume · 22/10/2018 18:08

There are lots of variables to consider. Choice of course is the big one as that is what you are left with once the study is done. Lots of courses have the same name but the devil is in the details (or course spec).

Depending on course type facilities can be very important and are not all the same. My 2 DDs are both scientists. Lab facilities are vital for them.

Choosing a university on grounds of proximity may be a short-term cost gain but a long-term loss if the resulting degree isnt good enough for the job market (and there are many measures of 'good enough').

Sparklingbrook · 22/10/2018 18:16

DS is in his second year. I have to say he didn't cost me as much as I thought in year one. I would buy him the odd food shop, and clothes pay for his phone, and bus pass. He is only about an hour away so he could come home frequently.

This year he has a part time job and will need even less.

flamingnoravera · 22/10/2018 23:48

Repayments start at £25k not 21k- then it's 9% of the difference. So £90 a year if they earn £26k. Repayments are based on earnings not on the loan amount so only high earners will ever repay their loans.

Ariela · 23/10/2018 00:50

Too many factors to take into account here. All depends where they live, whether they have a job or not, how much they socialise etc.

Daughter is at Uni, but lives at home, works and pays for everything she needs for herself eg car, phone, we pay for most food as she eats with us mostly - this doesn't cost us masses as we're more or less self sufficient on veg for much of the year. Doesn't drink, doesn't socialise other than with school friends every now and then (perhaps once a month). Her friend also lives at home, does not work, and has had to take a maintenance loan - she drinks, goes out, socialises a lot more, dresses far smarter etc. (don't think daughter has bought any new clothes this year)

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