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help!! Think my only option to kick dd out

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Endofmyline · 06/09/2018 02:38

Dd has for the last few years been very difficult to deal with.

Before that was a great kid, helpful & kind at home, good student and all that.

I have no idea what changed (other than hormones) but last few years have been SO difficult.

Huge temper tantrums if she doesn't get her way or told no, eventually led to refusing to go to school. I tried to support her, as did the school but eventually she dropped out. This was a kid who before had been in top class and getting top marks, even taking national exams a year early.

I tried to support her myself and made her appointments at Drs, cahms and others which she then refused to go to.

Other issues with temper kept happening, won't go to bed/sleep at reasonable time etc.

There's been quiet/ok times but not consistently.

She's wrecked stuff, got us in trouble with landlord.

Eventually she got a job which at first she loved. Now saying she hates it and that I'm forcing her to go.

Claiming all kinds of things are making her this way but does nothing to improve matters. I've offered help and support in many ways. But I feel out of my depth so that's why I've suggested cahms and other things.

Occasionally it's accepted but usually only a few days or weeks later it's rejected or she decides it's making matters worse or is me criticising her or 'trying to make myself look good' - how! I don't know! Basically it gets thrown back in my face.

She says other mums let her friends away with more than I do her (I know I know but she's very convincing)

Eg Sunday she asked if she could have a few friends round in the afternoon, I said fine - they were here until early hours of mon morning, they were quite loud (which I didn't appreciate and landlord wouldn't like) my living room has been left a mess which every time I've asked her to tidy it (I can't which she knows) I end up getting a rant of how other parents wouldn't be making a big deal of it.

Tonight it's all kicked off. I'm physically shaking. I've come so close to just kicking her out. She then makes a show of apologising and saying she'll do better.

As things stand she's saying she's going to stay elsewhere for a few days but then come back.

I'll admit I've actually probably been a lousy mum in a number of ways and for a number of reasons but I have tried to do better and be here for her but honestly not only do I think I CAN'T do it any more I don't think I want to. Breaks my heart to even think it but it's where I'm at.

I have no idea what to do. I'm scared of losing her but I'm also scared if she stays here with things as they are, that could happen anyway, plus one of us could well hurt the other.

As it is when she is home I try not to leave my room unless absolutely necessary or she is asleep. I'm so tense when she is due home I feel physically sick.

I have not the first clue what to do.

PLEASE can anyone who's been in a similar situation (either as parent or child), or anyone who deals with this stuff please advise? I'm scared.

Scared of losing her, scared of her being here and things escalating, scared of losing my home.

PLEASE HELP.

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sma1978 · 06/09/2018 02:44

That's an awful situation, Flowers. I don't have any advice sorry, but it might help others to know how old she is.

Endofmyline · 06/09/2018 02:47

Sorry yes she's nearly 18 but this has been going on 3/4 years.

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Endofmyline · 06/09/2018 22:06

2nd night of this. Can't stop shaking.

She keeps talking about I need to "be there for her" but that seems to mean doing whatever she wants whenever she wants without even questioning. This can be letting her off chores, giving her money, letting her come and go as she pleases, letting her have however many friends round at no notice regardless of how they might behave...

I don't think that's acceptable. But I'm getting an ear bashing over everything I've done wrong as a mother if I say 'no' or challenge her.

I can't relax in my own home.

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Mum2jenny · 06/09/2018 22:11

I'd be tempted to tell her straight the issues you have with her. Then decide depending on how she reacts to the way forward.

If conciliatory, she stays. If she argues and is being very awkward, you may need to tell her that she must either improve her behaviour or you expect her to move out in x weeks.

Endofmyline · 06/09/2018 22:20

Arguing would be an improvement!

Currently simply asking how her day has been ends up with screaming, shouting, doors slammed to the point of nearly coming off hinges, things thrown and broken...

Gave her a months "notice" last night when she eventually was a bit calmer but she won't get social housing and she'd need to save to go private - I don't have the money to give her for this and frankly she's tearing through her wages anyway but with nothing to show for it.

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lljkk · 06/09/2018 23:03

Who do you have for real life support, OP? I guess DD's dad not on the scene?

Singlenotsingle · 06/09/2018 23:08

Any grandparents that she might listen to?

Endofmyline · 06/09/2018 23:13

Not much real life support really.

Her dad useless, basically not on the scene for several years now. My mum not much help, she's not in great health herself and not close to dd either for various reasons.

I have no close friends nearby, nobody I can rely on, nobody even to talk to.

"Official" support via cpn (I have serious depression anyway - apparently this is my fault too, I've not done enough to help myself, it's been too much stress on her etc), but that's limited as they're not allowed to "interfere" with family issues. Especially at her age, without her consent.

She refuses any suggestions of mediation, counselling, other support. Says I should provide all the support she needs but honestly even if I was well I don't think anyone could do that, it's too much.

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OhTheRoses · 06/09/2018 23:15

How do you think camhs will help if she's not a danger to herself? My dd was, CAmHS wouldn't help. Eventually because we found out (because we persisted) she had a neurodevelopmental disability, she got the help she needed.

Why do you think the council should house her?

OhTheRoses · 06/09/2018 23:16

I am sorry to hear you are unwell.

AJPTaylor · 06/09/2018 23:21

My dd went to see a psychiatrist at 18, easier cos she no longer fell under cahms.
Diagnosed with adhd.
V similar to your dd.

Endofmyline · 07/09/2018 00:27

I don't know what to think could possibly be the problem.

Ohtheroses I'm sorry that happened to you and your dd.

I don't think the council should house her, but we are really struggling and I honestly don't know what to do for the best. For her or me.

I don't think adhd (but willing to admit I could be wrong) as she seemed until the last year to cope well with school/study. Unless can it develop later? I'm no expert so have no idea.

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Endofmyline · 07/09/2018 00:29

Although looking at the symptom list on nhs site she ticks most of them!

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Endofmyline · 07/09/2018 00:31

AJPTaylor - what were the similarities that you recognised?

We seem stuck in a cycle too. Huge blow ups approx every 3 months, promises to do 'whatever' to change things, calm, forgiveness, then stress or whatever builds up again and another huge blow up! Why 3 months?

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KTyoupigeon · 07/09/2018 00:34

Around the time of your daughters changed behaviour was she ill with a virus? If so I would suggest reading abours PANDAS

Endofmyline · 07/09/2018 00:47

Yes! That's when all this started! It was a 'normal' virus that most people can easily treat with otc medication - she ended up in hospital for several weeks!

This made her behind at school, which made her anxious (overachiever) and then she started skipping, it's all gone downhill from there basically!

But isn't pandas somewhat controversial/as yet unproven?

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KTyoupigeon · 07/09/2018 00:57

www.pandasuk.org/

Have a look at website.

Endofmyline · 07/09/2018 01:26

Thank you. Even if this is the cause would be impossible to get our local GP to accept this I think (they're awful for anything 'newfangled')

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Endofmyline · 07/09/2018 01:35

She's also been suffering from what the gps think is recurrent thrush but none of the treatments are working. Could this be related?

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OhTheRoses · 07/09/2018 04:58

My dd was an overachiever and all was perfectly fine until gcse's when the orgsnisation got too much for her and anxiety / depression set in and the self harm started. She has ADD (a type of ADHD).

Regrettably CAMHS did nothing and we had to engage a consultant psychiatrist to get her the support she needed al8ng with a diagnosis. You might find MH support is easier when your dd is 18. Whilst still underfunded adult MH isn't as drastically underfunded as child and adolescent support.

If your GP is unhelpful, have you thought about changing to a different one?

Monty27 · 07/09/2018 05:09

You have to set borders and stick to them. Good luck with that. Hard work. That age is just the worst.

Cantchooseaname · 07/09/2018 05:57

Do you think hormones may not lay a part? My teenage years were awful, I really struggled and was genuinely out of control. I had no way to reign it in. Going on the pill was a life changer.

AJPTaylor · 07/09/2018 23:51

It never occurred to me that dd had adhd. Never picked up in school but apparently that is common. Its just put down to stroppy girl behaviour. With dd it was the fact that if, for example, she was told to count to 10 because she was angry, she couldnt even get to 1. Other things were opportunistic behaviour and being utterly unreasonable.

Endofmyline · 08/09/2018 02:02

Hormones was my first thought. She's slightly better if she's on the pill (but other side effects put her off - she went on for heavy periods). Plus I've kinda been keeping a note and slightly worse in few days before period but there's other flashpoints that don't tie in and that doesn't explain the 3 monthly thing.

It's a nightmare getting things like adhd diagnosed even when the patient is cooperating! Which in this case they aren't.

It's murder getting her to go dr for ANYTHING.

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