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Teenager. Job and benefits.

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mummmy2017 · 16/07/2018 10:39

My 16 year old got a holiday job, but it's full time.
Tax credits say she can do 24 hours a week, so I told her can she please ask if she drop some hours or it will have massive effect on our life's. For what is just a summer job.
She is now screaming at me about it.

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LIZS · 16/07/2018 10:42

You should be encouraging her to work. Hmm Could she pay a contribution to the shortfall? Is she going back into ft education?

Mollywobbles82 · 16/07/2018 10:43

What will she be doing at the end of summer?

Perhaps it's time for a lesson on budgeting, and the expectation that she will contribute to the household budget whatever it is that you lose from tax credits. That should surely be possible even if she's working for NMW if the position is FT.

Purpleneonpinkunicorns · 16/07/2018 10:47

Well done for her getting a summer job, just take a small contribution off her. Better than her sitting around doing sfa all summer.

mummmy2017 · 16/07/2018 10:57

She will be going into full-time eduction, and has worked 3 days so far. I. Will lose £175 a week tax credits and her child benefit, all for 8 weeks of her getting an extra £50 a week... She is on Mon wage just £4.35 an hour and they want her to work 5 days a week. She come home and sleeps, this will effect the next 3 years of our lives. And I will lose even more as have been told will need to move over to universal tax credits.

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mummmy2017 · 16/07/2018 10:59

Yes I wanted her to get a summer job. But not to be worked so hard all she does is sleep eat work.

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Mollywobbles82 · 16/07/2018 11:11

I see your dilemma, have you sat down and gone through the figures with her? I.e. you will work 6 weeks, 5 days, x hours per day @ £4.35 per hour which totals £y. As a household we will lose £175 pw x 6 weeks + £z CB. What point is it she's making when you say she's 'screaming at you'?

Whatever she is earning, and whether you lose something or not, she should be contributing to household expenses.

5 days work a week hardly equates to 'working so hard all she does is sleep eat work'. Most people do that all year round and manage home, social, family lives, down time and hobbies.

As for transfer to UC, that's coming for you sooner or later.

Do you work yourself? Do you have other DC and how old are they? Maybe you should take this as a gentle reminder that the state will not support you to the tune of £200+ PW indefinitely.

mummmy2017 · 16/07/2018 11:16

I am self employed, have sent out over 100 cv trying to get a full time job, but nothing would pay over 15k here as very depressed area.
I have 2 years before she goes to uni, and I get my life back. Just trying to survive till I can move house to somewhere I can get a better job. DD wants to stay here till then.

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mrsshelby44 · 16/07/2018 11:24

It's good that she wants to work but if you'll both loose out financially for the next 3 years then she needs to reconsider her hours.

Out if interest, why do you need to wait til she's gone to uni to "get your life back" she's self sufficient now. If moving means getting a better job then that's what you have to do.

mummmy2017 · 16/07/2018 11:32

We are in the back of beyond, applyed for loads of jobs but no replies, think basic education, only never went to collage, can't retrain round here, also hate it here, but my children like the freedom and life style, so decided to put myself last till they had finished their collage life and then too do my own thing. When no longer their main supporting parent...

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Mollywobbles82 · 16/07/2018 12:31

You haven't said whether you've discussed the actual details of the finances with your DD, whether you expect a contribution of some kind, or what she is actually asking for.

If your DD wants to stay there, maybe she will need to start understanding the realities of what life costs and start contributing to the household.

Tbh your plan comes across as a little naive. Moving is expensive, how are you going to fund a move to (I presume) a bigger city where job opportunities are greater, especially once you are no longer receiving benefits on account of your daughter's age? Do you have a property to sell? If so, I suppose you can downsize. If not, how do you hope to secure a tenancy with no job? Any landlord or agency will want to see evidence that you have means to pay the rent. I rented for 10+ years and had to provide contracts, letters from my boss and bank statements each time. How long has it been since you worked? You say you have basic education only. It seems you've been at home a long time. What kind of job do you hope to secure and how will you go about finding it? The world of work and job seeking is a million miles from how it was 15-20+ years ago. If the £15k you could earn locally would not be enough to support your current lifestyle, presumably with additional benefits (child benefit, +?) how will a salary that is unlikely to be much (if anything) more than that be sufficient in wherever you're planning on moving to?

I'm sure this all sounds very harsh but it's said kindly. You've got potentially a few more years grace to sort this out but it really does seem like you should start now and look on this change in circumstances as the impetus you needed to make a change.

mummmy2017 · 17/07/2018 00:55

We have a house offered by relative. Unused holiday home...
I won't move yet as to disrupt my child's education and social life rather than wait 2 more years would seem a waste of my sacrifices, made to give them a stable life.
DD had looked it all up, and can see what it will effect and how, she asked for 3 days instead of 5 or 6, the owner was very nasty, so she decided to quit, as she has been told it would not be 35 but actually 40 hours he expected her to work..
She thinks he is a slave master, as he is paying min allowed.
Also I mentioned it too friend who offered her £7 per hour and 12 hours a week...
Don't you love friends. Will be evening so she will still have time for her friends during the day... Panic over.

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