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How would you have handled this situation?

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steppemum · 04/05/2017 09:44

So, bit long. Ds and Dd1 have had ructions, ds took something of dds etc. ds is 14, dd is 12. Ds is typical teenager, dd is a bit of a goody goodie and young for her age, this leads to ds thinking she is favoured, which we try very hard to show is not true.

last night, dd1 on her phone until dinner, then she plugged it in to the charger in kitchen by the dishwasher.
After dinner it was ds turn to clear the table and pack the dishwasher. Dd went to do the pets.
When dd picked up her phone, her password didn't work. Someone had changed it and she was locked out of her phone.

The only person who could have done it was ds while he packed the dishwasher, and he was cross with dd, so doing something like this to get back at her would be pretty typical. He swore he hadn't done it. Trouble is, if he did do it, he would swear he hadn't as long as he thought he coudl get away with it, so no reason to believe him.

I was inclined to think he HADN'T done it, as I didn't think there was time between doing the dishwasher, we were still at the table and neither of us saw him. Dh thinks he DID do it, as he was the only one who could have.
I said to dh that if he is so certain, then he has to deal with it, as I wasn't sure. He said fine, as long as I backed him up. We have learnt that we have to present a united front to ds if we are to unravel any situation. Dh removes ds phone until dds phone is working. ds' phone is VERY important to him, can't live without it, if dds phone isn't sorted, that means he has no phone at school today.

Cue a whole evening of drama, tears and anger. Ds swears he didn't do it. At 2 points I spoke to dh and said I am now certain he didn't do it because he would not sacrifice his phone for today no matter how much he wanted to get back at dd. Then later, I could see that ds wasn't doing his normal huge angry bluff to get out of something, he ws really upset, not normal when he is covering up. At this point I said to dh, you are going to damage our relationship with him, because if he is falsely accused and we are unfair he will remember it, he is genuinely upset. Dh was still - but who else COULD have done it??

All evening dh had been fiddling with dds phone trying to turn it off (need password to do that) Ds won't go to bed, he is in his room, light on, upset, angry. At 10 pm, at which point I was really saying to him - ds hasn't done it. (his response was that who else could have done it) anyway, at 10 pm, he manages to get the phone to turn off, turns it on again, and dds password works. In other words, no-one had changed it, the phone was just frozen in some way.

Dh went upstairs, apologised to ds, and gave him his phone back. Ds was sort of fine. Relieved it was sorted, but tired and wrung out.

I am finding it really hard today to process.

There is background, when I was 7 I was falsely accused of pinching something of my brother's. I never forgot the rage and injustice. It came out years later what had actually happened. That means I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt too much, which ds has used to his advantage in the past.
Dh tends to jump to conclusions more than me, certain who has done it based on small evidence.
Usually we make a good team, we moderate each other, and we are usually right, we know if one of the dcs is pulling a fast one. It is rare for us to be divided like this. (and rare for us to get it wrong with ds over something like this)

I think I am angry because I could see that ds was genuinely upset and dh wouldn't back down. But on the other hand, the ructions between ds and dd over the weekend were very similar he swore black was white he hadn't pinched her stuff, and then two hours later, he gave it back, so it is really hard to tell with him.

How do you handle situations like this?

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steppemum · 04/05/2017 09:46

I should add that all these conversations between dh and me were out of hearing af dcs

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JaxingJump · 04/05/2017 09:54

I think a sit down discussion between you, DH and DS might be a good idea. Apologise fully to him and explain that in the past, he has lied about similar things so unfortunately that makes it very hard to judge but you feel terrible for what happened and how he must be feeling and you will take his word without question next time.

Then do take his word fully until he lets you down again and at that point you can say that the trust is gone again and you will find it hard to judge the truth from him. Hopefully the experience will have a positive effect on him and he'll be unwilling to use his get-out-of-jail pass on something silly again.

Funnyfarmer · 04/05/2017 11:28

This might be a big learning curve for ds.
Like the boy who cried wolf scenario.
I think everyone has has Wrongly accused their child at some point. Even over something small.
Don't beat yourself or dh about it. All you can do is apologise and explaine to him that he hasn't got the best track record for being honest. Remind him of the other situations that you wrote in your op.
Everyone will always be judged on their past behaviour throughout there life. If he doesn't want anything like this to happen again he will have to work at being honest and gaining people's trust

gleam · 04/05/2017 11:34

Agree with Funny.

Also I'd be sanctioning him for being a bully with all the teasing of dd and taking her things.
It reminds me uncomfortably of my childhood and my elder brother's ways.

VimFuego101 · 04/05/2017 11:34

I don't think this is as awful as you think it is. Your DS has lied in the past so that means that you (understandably) question whether he is always telling the truth now. That is a useful lesson for him to learn about lying. Your DH apologized for being wrong - setting a good example for your children that sometimes you screw up and have to backtrack and say sorry.

Sgtmajormummy · 04/05/2017 13:11

I agree with the fresh start idea with DS.

Saying "OK, we handled this badly all round. From now on we are going to believe you first time until you show us we shouldn't have."
Such a dramatic incident is the right moment to turn over a new leaf.

I've had problems throughout teenage years with DS's "innocent until proven guilty attitude". He's now 18 and I still take whatever he tells me with a pinch of salt. Over the years I tried the "boy who cried wolf" story, the "true blue line of honesty" parable, the shocking "I don't believe a word you tell me" moment and it's STILL easier for him to put off the consequences until he's been found out. Grrr...it makes me and DH soooo cross, more for his deviousness than the original mistake. Smile
I suppose it's all part of becoming a grownup and having your own life and secrets. At 18 he faces the consequences directly now.

Ragging your little sister can also go too far, especially if she's not able to compete verbally or physically. A bit like playing with a pet leading up to teasing it, something he might understand as I see you have animals. A serious chat would be appropriate at a later time once this has blown over, I think.

swingofthings · 04/05/2017 17:16

Neither could have handled it any better. What matters is the message that is shared afterwards, both in terms of genuine acknowledgment that you were both wrong to accuse him in the first place, and that you are deeply sorry for the upset BUT that is is a lesson to learn that when you do make up stories, you do lose people's trust and they are much more likely to distrust you when in doubt.

So you got it wrong but he has a part of responsibility for the reason why you did so.

steppemum · 04/05/2017 21:45

Thanks everyone. Sorry to be slow to come back it has been a busy day.

sgtmajormum - really glad ds isn't the only one! Innocent until proven guilty attitude really does cover it.

His constant ragging of dd is an issue. When we pull him up on it he sees it as more evidence of us taking dds side. We have dd2 s well, and he is just as bad to her.

Then on a good day he is lovely.
Teenagers, bloody teenagers.

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