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Teenager staying out all night drinking with friends

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Alvah · 18/12/2016 11:01

It has been a while since I posted here, as things have been much better. When DS turned 14 he rebelled and was out of control for a while - it was hell. We had aggression, holes in walls, drinking, drugs, staying out all weekend, school refusal, trouble with police and clear mental health issues.

For almost a year now things have been so much better. He's not been going out much at weekends, hardly been drinking, staying away from drugs, been very pleasant to be around, focusing on school and we've had no anger outbursts. There have been the odd mishap when out drinking, but mostly no issues.

The improvement clearly came along with having a girlfriend. She was here a lot and he seemed happy with that. However they have broken up recently, and the last two weekends he's been out with his friends again. Also in the weekdays, he's been down at his friends a lot after school. He seems to have missed them. His now ex-girlfriend hates drinking/drugs ams wanted them to stay here instead. This suited me very well, I feel I've had a years respite.

The improvement also came along with me stepping back. When I first discovered he was experimenting with drink/drugs I came down on him guns blazing. I grounded him, stopped his money, spoke to the school, took him the GP, called the police if he refused to come home, searched his room etc. We fought like cat and dog, and neither would back down. It was the worst time of our lives as a family. He was told by family liason officer that unless he started following my house rules he could be taken into care. I was told by social worker that because of his age and temperament, coming up to 15 then, I couldn't control his behaviour only my response to it. He told me to let him go a bit, and so did the police... I employed a different tactic, which was to stop fighting with him, and instead take a supportive stance. I stopped searching his room, and actively supported him and trusted him instead. Letting him know that the choices he made were his own and that I would always love him no matter what, but that if he got in trouble with police etc. it would be out of my hands.

I had been going out looking for him at weekend nights and had the police drag him out of a party. He ran off and the next night vandalised property with another boy. He was charged for this and being in possession of cannabis. I didn't know what to do. I was also extremely mortified, as we not a typical troubled family, but all is otherwise well. Still I was embarrassed to go to the shops. I realised he had to take responsibility for his actions, not me.

Now, coming up to 16, and without his girlfriend, he's been back out drinking with his mates. I am terrified that we are going to relive the nightmare we went through, or that he will become a drinker... Since that time, I've not been able to say to him, 'no, you can't go out with your friends' because he took that power and freedom during his rebellion. He is keen to get his own place, and if he had the money he would move out the day he was 16. I am so struggling with him being out at night at a party, not knowing if there's drugs or if he would take them again.

I see posts from people's teens drinking small amounts of alcohol and involved in sports and other activities, and I feel rotten inside. There are plenty of teens around here much worse than mine, and many were younger than mine was when they started going out partying. And I know it's 'normal' for a 16 year old to go out drinking, but I find it so hard. I don't sleep at all when he is out. It's horrible.

Just needed to get that off my chest as no one I talk to about it makes me feel any better - just worse. Especially my family.

Anyone else struggling with similar issues?

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BratFarrarsPony · 18/12/2016 11:07

First of all whatever I say is not in judgement. My son also 'went off the rails' quite spectacularly.

what stood out to me is this ..

" When I first discovered he was experimenting with drink/drugs I came down on him guns blazing. I grounded him, stopped his money, spoke to the school, took him the GP, called the police if he refused to come home, searched his room etc. We fought like cat and dog, and neither would back down "

this obviously did not really work. Now he is nearly 16 if you continue like this you will just push him away until he leaves, which he will be quite capable of.

YOu need to try a different approach if you want to keep him at home.

Alvah · 18/12/2016 11:40

Thank you for your reply, BratFarrarsPony.

I appreciate your post, and I agree with you. I will lose him if I try and control him again. but it is so difficult standing back and watching it happen, as I feel I should stop him, but I can't. It makes me feel useless and powerless as a parent.

I hope he will learn faster by making mistakes...He got really drunk last night and came home this morning still under the influence, he was sick and has gone to bed. He wasn't going to drink last night because they had had a night out on Friday, but they had a last minute stupid idea late at night, and got someone to buy them drink. I hate it.

He wasn't too impressed though, he said sorry for not coming home, that it was a shit night and feels absolutely rubbish today (which makes me quite pleased). I felt really annoyed with him in the night though, because I'm stuck here worrying about him.

I'm trying so hard to let go, and trust he will be okay, but I'm scared and annoyed.

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exWifebeginsat40 · 18/12/2016 12:04

is there anything that happened around the time he started acting out? not saying this is anything like your situation, but i properly fucked my
life up from about 14 onwards. home was awful but nobody wanted to connect the dots and so my place in the family as black sheep was cemented.

keep talking, keep telling him you love him. sending strength.

Alvah · 18/12/2016 12:40

Thank you exWife.

Things have been a bit tense with him from he was little, especially when I got pregnant with DS2. He would have rages and he's always been a 'rebel'; a bit insecure and very independent.

I think at 14, he realised his own power. He left his dad who he had a difficult relationship with, and at the same time friends were accessing alcohol/weed. Friends were having sleepovers, and less protective parents, so I think he felt 'fuck it, I've had enough of this. I'm going to go out and have fun with my friends'. I'd never had my kids at weekends before, so it was a shock to suddenly have an angry teen at home.

When it was bad, and he'd been drinking he said he me and his dad had totally messed him up, with the arguing and conflicts. We split when he was 5. He refused to go back to his dad at 14, and has stuck to it, after 10 years of weekends there. Dad can be aggressive, controlling and in my opinion emotionally abusive.

Your last words brought tears to my eyes, I must know deep down that this is the best way forward - just loving him, being here and offering a 'safe' haven. He is the sweetest boy, when he feels trusted, loved and respected.

It's just hard to trust he'll be safe when out partying Hmm

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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BratFarrarsPony · 18/12/2016 12:42

" this is the best way forward - just loving him, being here and offering a 'safe' haven "

yes this ...

hang in there OP I know it is a terrible worry.

Thingscanonlygetbetter41 · 18/12/2016 16:33

No advice as such but going through exactly the same thing Flowers with my DD. Is he in school at the moment ?

Thingscanonlygetbetter41 · 18/12/2016 16:35

Everyone advises me "ground her" but how the heck do you ground a child who will walk straight out whatever I say/do. All I'm doing at the moment is asking for regular texts of where she is so I know she's safe, I can't stop her.

Alvah · 18/12/2016 16:45

BratFarrarsPony - thank you confirming. I needed some confirmation that this is the best approach Flowers

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Alvah · 18/12/2016 17:04

Thingscanonlygetbetter - thank you for your post. It means a lot Flowers

I know, there comes a time where the power balance tips over and grounding loses it's power.

He was pretty good at messaging me, letting me know where he was and that he was okay. But last night he didn't and when he finally did, he was really drunk, I could tell from his messages.

He is in school this year, and attendance is good. But last year attendance was down to 50% at one point Sad

Is your DD in school?

Sorry you are going through the same. Sending you some comradeship Flowers

Thank you

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Thingscanonlygetbetter41 · 18/12/2016 18:37

My DD is in a specialist school for children's with behavioural difficulties. Yeah dd pushes against power so anything I do sanction wise she just ups the anti, weekends are spent panicking with very little sleep. I posted last week and no one replied ! I try and just keep things as positive as possible but it's such a difficult time, sometimes I'm strong sometimes I feel like running away !

Alvah · 18/12/2016 19:10

Thingscanonlygetbetter - I'm sorry no one replied. I would have if I'd seen it!

It is so hard. I also am awake all night when he's out. Adrenaline pumping and feeling sick Confused

My DS got so much worse when I fought him, he also upped the anti with every move I made. In the end I let go, and only then did we manage to reach a compromise of some sort.

I hope you manage to hold out, I guess as they mature things improve...? They may need us to believe in them, for them to believe in themselves Star

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Thingscanonlygetbetter41 · 18/12/2016 19:39

Yeah that's the route I'm taking I hate arguing and panicking 24/7 so we reached a compromise that if she was staying out she'd text me address and who she's with. I'm often called between 2-4 to go and pick her up which has a major impact on my weekends but I'm
To scared to say no incase something bad happened.

Thingscanonlygetbetter41 · 18/12/2016 19:41

I know that adrenaline feeling, I've actually lost weight one small triumph !

Alvah · 18/12/2016 20:37

I can relate to that. I think I am on tenterhooks, fearing something bad will happen, therefore cannot sleep.

No weight loss yet, but last year I lost weight and looked ill Sad

Last year I used to pick DS and friends up every weekend, but that was at 11.30 ish of the train. Now they stay in town, so always in walking distance.

Only positive for me is that I don't think he'll go completely haywire again, as he has exams in school coming up, and is suffering badly today. Next weekend is Christmas and he has promised to stay at home with us Star

Hang in there! Hope you get some peace at Christmas 🎅

Best wishes!

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simsima79 · 22/10/2019 23:12

Hi I have just stumbled across this post whilst googling for support for my now 14 year old son.
I wanted to know how things are now? I have lost all control with my son and I really do not know what to do?
He tonight has passed his curfew and is refusing to answer his phone (texting only) I am at my wits end how to deal with his behaviour. He has attachment disorder and is using cannabis regular please any advice I would appreciate x

McHorace · 23/10/2019 00:03

Simsima

My son I hope is just coming out of this (I sincerely hope so) and he is 22 (just) He dropped out of college, uni and working and was drinking and doing drugs. I was and still, am utterly horrified/shocked at this behaviour (but I try not to tell him that all the time although we have discussed it. Shaming does not work if it's constant) My son He is now working, we are not out of the woods but it feels better.

Lads (I have 2 one at 25 now) at around 14/15 seem to start going crazy with drink/drugs and other behaviours, pushing boundaries, It so hard to watch and as a parent end up feeling guilty and powerless. it's so awful.

Is there anything else going on with your son at school/home/bullying/peer pressure? At that age 14 for my son, I was diagnosed with breast cancer and was really ill and his dad was useless (single parent) It's such a time of change for them, child to adolescent and all the problems they face; try to get him to confide if there is something going on. He still needs you, really!

My advice would try to support, keep talking - that can still be done with the boundaries in place, by getting him to agree with you something that he feels ok with is fair and he retains some power and control over. For example 'I really worry when you are out at 12, is it possible we could agree on a time for you to come home?' see what he says and if he agrees and breaks the agreement then the boundary is set. wifi password works! and remind him of your agreement (that he was part of agreeing to) and try again. warning!! this will not work overnight you need to keep at it and try to be firm but allow him some autonomy. Remind him WE made an agreement, get him to sign it if you think that might work. Honest, I have been through hell and back with my boy- it's been truly awful. I recognise tho even at 14 he had to take some responsibility for his choices. It's tough but hang in there!

Fleetheart · 24/10/2019 08:02

@mchorace, thanks for sharing your experience. I have read your advice a few times, gleaning all I can from in!- I am in a similar place with my 15 year old DS. He really doesn’t want to take at all; just hang out with his mates, smoke weed, and actively avoid thinking about the future. Did your son go to school? Mine is bright but literally will fail every exam as he is disengaged and does no work. He has a good core; he is kind at times- but really is making my life and my daughters life hell; he is so rude and nasty to us. When did your DS start improving? Did anything make a big difference?

hunterhal · 24/10/2019 15:32

thingscanonlygetbetter sorry no-one posted on your thread. I think that on MN the questions on parents struggling with more difficult teens are often ignored. People prefer to post on more simple or light "opinion" type subjects. It can leave you feeling very isolated and alone Sad.

I am sorry I can't add more to help OP specifically - I have got a difficult teen DS - but he doesn't act out in quite the same way as yours. I hope you get the benefit of more experience from other posters here who perhaps have had similar experiences.

hunterhal · 24/10/2019 15:33

BLIMEY, Just realised this is a ZOMBIE thread from 2016!!!!

I hope things worked out for the OP.

hunterhal · 24/10/2019 15:33

ZOMBIE THREAD ALERT!

Fleetheart · 24/10/2019 16:11

@hunterhal, it’s a zombie but has been reinvigorated - so hopefully some good advice for some of who are still suffering with majorly challenging teens!

hunterhal · 24/10/2019 16:22

agree, but its still disconcerting, and you are left wondering what happened then, but people do not usually come back 99 times out of a 100 anyway. why don't people start new threads?

Fleetheart · 24/10/2019 16:41

I sometimes do wonder what happened to people and I wish they would come back and report on how things turned out- with challenging teens it really helps to have the voice of experience. It’s been a rocky road so far and my DS is only 15!

Laaaaa · 05/09/2021 08:41

Op how did this play out? In the same situation

Laaaaa · 05/09/2021 08:47

abs before anyone jumps on me I know it's a zombie thread but in exact same situation and not slept for days