Any advice on getting 17 yr old up please

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12 year old dd has recently started the same school as her 17 year old brother. Her assembly is at 8.45, his is at 8.50. We are 5mins drive (on narrow country roads with no buses) away. She wants to get to school at 8.30. He gets up at approx 8.42!! And is pure evil in the mornings. I would also worry that left to his own devices that he just wont go to school-we just have to get thru to may! Any help avoiding morning meltdowns appreciated!

Alternatively if you have a OH have a very passionate loud shag and embarrass your teen out of his bed

Ah, if only OH didn't have to get into work early

Mega phone or banging pans together whilst mincing around his room. I used to do this to my brother we get on great now!

Hoovering is good.. Outside his door. Irritates my dd nicely!

back in the day I would suggest removing the main fuse from the fusebox. So he's in a house with no electricity.

now - take the router and his phone with you when you leave.

He should learn to drive then OP. Only option.

We send the cat in. Tuna breath in the morning shifts them nicely.

But yep, leave without him.

Have a precise fixed time when you leave - maybe 8.35 if DD doesn't actually have to be there til 8.45. Not really fair to drag him in earlier than necessary just because DD likes to chat to get friends first thing.

If he isn't in the car by the agreed time, then he doesn't get a lift. But each time this happens he gets some consequence - eg pocket money reduced, or WiFi off at 8pm

Is cycling not an option?

He's not joking about the hitch hiking - he discovered I hitch hiked around Europe when I was 18 😵.. I do (attempt!) to draw the line at hitching in his school uniform tho. Can't believe he won't get his act together with driving - everyone promised him help with driving lessons /getting a car for his 17th. All he has to do is fill out and send off some paperwork! We are refusing to do it for him so it's not getting done. So unlike his brother who had it all sorted and organized b4 he had his 17th birthday - and who used to get up extra early to walk his dog and get a lift into town with a neighbour! Chalk and cheese!!

Just to add that we live in rural Ireland where hitchhiking is a more acceptable way of getting around

Frozen loaf of bread to the chest

You have my sympathy. My fourteen year old is a pain up the arse. I told him (jokingly) that I am thinking of investing in a cattle prod to force him out of bed. Is education complusory in Ireland for 17 year olds? I think he should cycle to school if he misses his lift.

Yes, hitchhiking is likely to be less appealing in the winter. And I believe you get a fair bit of rain in Ireland

Plan of action! Explain clearly to both dc that the drive to school will leave at 8.30. If I'm working then that's it and he makes his own way to school. If I'm not then it's only 15 mins there and back so he can have a lift but we discuss taxi fare .

Make him cycle.

Sounds a good plan. Make sure your taxi fee is sufficiently high to deter him missing the lift!

That sounds like a good plan.

Would he cycle?

Aw.. Postscript to this mornings stress.. I just got an apology for this morning's behaviour from Ds and an explanation -he's just back from a school sponsored trip to Lourdes helping the sick (I was being very cynical about his motivation in taking time off school to go to the south of France!!).. so he spent the last few days in 30 deg heat helping the less able from 6am to midnight and my tough nut of a ds found it a very moving experience and is welcome to return as they found him so helpful. . Sniff....

Aw. He is a lovely lad really! He would be perfect if he just got out of bed earlier.

Well he could clean his room occasionally too