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18 year old in love with older drug dealer/addict

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Mhairi1984 · 21/08/2015 02:40

I'm writing this about my sister, who for the purpose of this post will be called C.

C is 18 years old and has recently been becoming much more distant and secretive. She doesn't spend much time with the family, preferring to sit in her room and listen to music, or go and hang out around the area with friends. She has just finished school and got a higher education place. For the last two years, she's been keeping a lot of stuff from my mum, mostly where she goes and who she hangs with. She's been on Tinder and has met guys round at their houses even though she has been told that's unsafe. My mum is quite liberal and usually wouldn't mind this kind of stuff if C would let people know what she's doing and be safe about it. She always tells me she doesn't want to let our mum know because she'll 'worry' her (patronising much?), so instead just continues with this kind of behaviour. It's her default reaction to stop telling people if she thinks they might be worried, rather than listen to criticism.

A month and a half ago she met a guy in the area, who goes by a name which isn't his real name and doesn't have a Facebook or anything to show his true identity (she contacts him through phone and skype). Her behaviour got more secretive. My mum saw him once and he was clearly drunk at midday. He said it was his birthday, clearly to excuse the state he was in. I met him a week after and he was slurring his words, blind drunk at 2pm walking down the high street. Guess what. It was his birthday that day as well, according to C.

We just assumed he was an alcoholic and a bit of a waster (does nothing all day but drinks around the local area with teenagers when he is in his 20s). We mentioned to her we didn't think it was a good idea to be seeing him and she laughed it off and continued being secretive. Then it all blew up today when her friend's mother, Carole, phoned my mum and said she was really concerned about the relationship C has been getting in to. Carole has a reputation as a liberal parent and never shows when she's upset and so C has felt able to tell her that:
-The guy is a crack and heroin addict and a drug dealer
-He has a curfew excluding him from the area we live in. He doesn't live there but goes there to hang with C and sell drugs
-He's just got out of prison (C told us he'd been studying science at uni- clearly a lie)
-He's asked C for money and she has given him £150. Some of that came from a savings account our parents set up so she could put a deposit on a house after finishing uni
-She's hung out with him while he's dealing
-She's even asked one of her friends to buy drugs off him

My mum and I talked really calmly with her, and she cried, said sorry for taking the money (she lied she didn't have enough for a holiday we did together so I ended up paying all her travel and food for that whole week) and promised she 'wouldn't make us involved'. But we're terrified that she's involving herself with a dealer who clearly owes a lot of money to some scary people. I know from friends' stories that girlfriends are considered legitimate targets. C mentioned that he had loads of enemies, as he'd snitched on a guy. We kept on repeating this to her and saying she had to cut it off as to disassociate herself from a load of stuff she's out of her depth in. My mum told her to not worry about the money and just accept she's lost it. We made it clear we only cared about her and her wellbeing and did not believe there was any 'safe' amount of romantic involvement. She kept on crying but was only really upset because she didn't want to lose the boyfriend. I've never seen her that angry and sad, actually screaming. She's only known the guy 5 weeks.

C is 18 but really acts a lot younger (mild learning difficulties, her cousin had similar problems with older guys). She thinks he loves her and says she loves him. She says he's going to go on methadone and then he'll take her to a theme park. She kept on trying to get away from the conversation, clearly so she could contact him. It ended with my mum taking the phone and hiding it in my bedroom. We chatted to her in her room and she was just screaming and begging for the phone. She could not see the danger she's put herself in and all she can talk about is how much she misses him and the amazing relationship we're taking away from her. She's saying no one will ever love her that much again and she'll never get any other man. She sounds like a melodramatic teenager but I think she really believes it. When we had our holiday she made it clear she did not think life was worth living without a boyfriend, and that she would take any boyfriend.

She is determined to see him again. I noticed on the phone (I only looked at the Skype- haven't spied in other ways and do not want to) that she's been on her computer messaging him through Skype, saying her phone got confiscated but he should contact her through that and she really wants to hear from him.

What can we do? We're not prison guards and have our own lives. We've tried to talk but she chooses not to listen. Any advice?

P.S. he knows where we live.

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RockinHippy · 21/08/2015 03:11

Honestly, if it were my sister or daughter, I would keep calm, keep lines of communication open at all times & then very secretly report him to the police, or ring 101 for advice.

If he's not long out of prison & he is still dealing, then he is no doubt in breach of his terms of release & will be sent back to jail. Your sister can never know this of course, but if he's using & dealing the drugs you mention, then he just isn't capable of loving your sister back, he only loves what she can do for him. She is probably addicted to him, I doubt he treats her well, but will blow hot & cold. All very rock & roll, but not the stuff that dreams are made of & by the sounds of it, he won't change.

She will be hurt when he goes away again, but hopefully she will have enough time away to realise why he was bad for her. I would also look at counselling for her as there is likely a reason she falls for guys like this, she sounds like she has her foundations built in sand, so recreates a relationship with the same unstable foundations. Approach this as support for her dealing with him being inside.

I wish you luck, I've seen a few friends go that way over the years, the guys they loved died young & caused a whole heap of hurt, those that survived fried their brains so suffer badly with MH problems, none of it will leave your Sister unscathed, if she's lucky & strong minded she won't join him in his addiction, but most do eventually, speaking from experience, some never make it out of the other side. So my advice might sound harsh & I'm sure deep down he's a lost soul & quite lovable when he shows his softer side, which is what your sister will see, but I wouldn't hesitate if it were me, but she must never know.

Good luck

BastardGoDarkly · 21/08/2015 03:30

Everything Rockin said, in spades.

Are you sure she's not on drugs already? It really is only a matter of time before she falls in with his behaviour.

Masses of sympathy from me, must be so hard to watch.

Is her new uni going to be local?

tribpot · 21/08/2015 06:31

He sees her as a revenue stream. Your mum needs to get control of that savings account. Why does she have access to it if it's meant for a house deposit?

What a terrifying time, hope the guy is back inside soon. Perhaps the police need to have a word with her too?

Zippyzoppy · 21/08/2015 11:09

How long is it before she goes off to higher education? Is she going nearby, or away somewhere?

specialsubject · 21/08/2015 11:46

get control of that money NOW before it all goes in someone's veins. Don't care that she is 18, he WILL take it all.

make sure she is well supplied with condoms. He's almost certainly carrying something.

call 101 for advice.

Mhairi1984 · 21/08/2015 17:57

Thanks for all the messages and support. I've also shown my mum.

We grilled her about whether she uses and I believe she hasn't yet (at least not anything hard) but she is impressionable and definitely would if she got further involved with him.

Last night we agreed to take the money as it was making her a target. The money was originally transferred to her account a few years ago after my dad started taking it without my mum's permission to spend on his own holidays. C has agreed to compromise and transfer it into my account where I will keep it for her. Unfortunately now she's an adult we needed her cooperation to transfer the money legally, but she agreed. I live very far away and so that should stop the money making her a target.

I also believe her when she says that their relationship hasn't got sexual yet. She is at least very conscientious about safe sex.

I got asked to mind her today and have decided to switch the wifi off while she's in her room and to say she can only use her computer if she does it in the living room to talk to friends. It feels like I'm her jailer but when we went to meet my mum for lunch she just repeated the same stuff about us not realising what a nice guy he is. And she cried a lot. She keeps on saying "but I'm not putting anyone in danger but myself". So it's alarming she thinks that should be some comfort to her mother.

I wouldn't tell the police about him. He's an obvious enough drug dealer he does that by himself. Basically has it written across his forehead (tattooed across his knuckles to be precise). We've always been really open and honest so to make a secret we always have to keep from her would not be a good way forward, or at least it's not how I want to do things. I also don't want a drug dealer who knows where we live to have a grievance with our family. We have no evidence that could lead to an arrest. But we would still talk to the police to get advice from them if C continues on this path.

She is going to her course locally (it's a 1 year course she can only get funding for if it's local). We've decided that if they stay together and scary things happen then we are prepared for her to come and live with me, or to move house.

How she was today really made us think there is something seriously wrong with her perception of her own safety, love and her worth as a person. She said she can't rule out that one day she might marry him. She's obsessed with this idea only he understands her. I phoned up the GP today and asked about booking her an appointment with a mental health nurse but was told to phone back Monday. Our area is popular with drug addicts who come here to buy and I really think it will help her to get on to a degree course in another town. But she showed that an underlying issue is her self-worth and naivity making her such an easy target for exploitation. If anyone has any more ideas about how to work on that I'd be really interested.

If anything it's just been good to get so much sympathy and help from everyone here (:

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QuiteLikely5 · 21/08/2015 18:06

Unlikely he was drunk. Probably high. Gosh do what you can to get her away from him. It's only a matter of time before she is hooked on drugs

Mhairi1984 · 21/08/2015 18:21

She's just been at Carole's house and asked my mum if she can reach an agreement whereby she never meets him or gives him money, but can message and skype him. My mum looks like she's wavering but I think it's a terrible idea. I think he can still manipulate her like this and saying no about the money will just make him feel he has to work on her. Any thoughts/suggestions?

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Mhairi1984 · 21/08/2015 18:31

Update: I went on her skype and saw that during a 10 minute period she was online under my supervision she had told him she doesn't know when she'll next be able to contact him cause her wifi's on and off. This has persuaded my mum not to trust her to keep in contact with him. Now thinking of taking her computer. We have a lodger moving in when I go back to uni and obviously cannot keep a wifi free zone then. Grrrrrrr.... so peeved off. 10 minutes and she betrays my trust.

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