Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Teenagers

Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

DD 14 has lost a lot of weight, worried, advice please

21 replies

Drywhiteplease · 22/05/2015 17:57

My 14 year old DD has, over the last few months, become really health and fitness mad. She exercises a lot and has become obsessed with healthy eating. She's always been a healthy child and we eat well at home. She's really toned now but I'm so worried it might develop into a big problem soon as her periods have stopped. Her PE teacher had a word with her the other day as she had also noticed.
We have a very good relationship and she talks to me a lot, I don't want to spoil this, and don't want to put her off talking. She thinks I'm nagging her and making a fuss about nothing. I've read that I shouldn't mention her eating because that will make it worse. She says she's not happy at school but can't explain exactly why.
I am planning to take her to the GP next week, she's very anti this, and meet with her year head at school too.

Can anyone advise me what to do?

OP posts:
KittyandTeal · 22/05/2015 18:03

It's hard for me to give advice as someone recovering from various eating disorders.

I will say that even though she thinks it's not a problem her periods stopping suggest otherwise. Have you spoken to her about that element?

Mintyy · 22/05/2015 18:10

I think you are quite right to be very concerned.

I know two perfectly ordinary 14 year old girls from perfectly ordinary families who are suffering with anorexia at the moment, and countless others who are obsessed with diets, fitness and "healthy eating". There is a blog, something called Deliciously Ella - a lot of them seem to follow it.

I think you are quite right to intervene as soon as you can. The road to recovery is long and arduous.

PeaceOfWildThings · 22/05/2015 18:13

You are doing the right thing. Also look up your nearest NHS eating disorder clinic and phone and ask if you can self refer. That way you will get seen sooner, if appropriate.

The GP should weigh your DD, check her height and work out her BMI for the referral. Will ask her a number of questions (GP will be aware that people with edEDs are often not able to talk freely about food or reveal fully what they eat or restrict etc.) GP should also order relevant blood test, which includes things like glucose, FBC (full bloid count) tsh (thyroid), F (iron), U&E
Etc...Good to get these done anyway, even if the questions and BMI do not reveal much.

Bear in mind it is possible that if her BMI is not especially low, and she doesn't get refwrred by GP (and you can't refer her) you should keep an eye out for further ED behaviours and weught loss and get her in again pronto.

donemekmelarf · 22/05/2015 18:18

Drywhite, hope you get lots of good advice.
It's a worry when your child become obsessed with fitness and exercise.

ToysRLuv · 22/05/2015 18:29

I became anorexic at that age. Was never technically underweight, but very bony and gaunt for my built. Was obsessively "healthy" and exercised hard for nearly 2 hours every day. My periods stopped until they were restarted with hormones a year later. Periods stop if your fat percentage is too low to sustain a pregnancy, which means that you are unhealthily lean and risk future osteoporosis, infertility, etc if the situation is left for too long.

CalmItKermit · 22/05/2015 19:27

DryWhite, I am just back from the gp where dd15 has been diagnosed with an eating disorder, definitely anorexia.

Doctor was very through, she had bloods and an ecg, thankfully they were all ok but I believe exam stress has brought this on.

You are doing the right thing going to the GP, I let my dd go in alone so she could really say what she wanted/needed to. Dds periods also stopped two months ago but she only realised a few weeks ago, she is living in a stress filled fog.

I have literally just found the following topic/thread on MN that Peace upthread started:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eating_disorders/2384940-Parents-of-children-with-very-low-weight-anorexia-support

CalmItKermit · 22/05/2015 19:43

sorry, should have started off by saying that two weeks ago I said we were going to the gps as she was stressed beyond belief, she didn't want to go but she went, again saw gp on her own. She cancelled the follow up appointment but yesterday actually said to me, mum I need to see gp.

PeaceOfWildThings · 22/05/2015 21:13

Good to talk to the school first. Then you can your the DC that the school has told you to take her to the GP, because several teachers are concerned, and you have no choice.

PeaceOfWildThings · 22/05/2015 21:13

*can tell your DC

Drywhiteplease · 22/05/2015 21:34

Thank you all for your advice, breaks my heart really that so many beautiful girls do this.
Calmit so sorry to hear your Dd has aneorexia, but good that she is being treated.
Kitty I think the period thing and her PE teachers comments have surprised her. I think she understands what is going on but doesn't want to eat more because she Doesn't want to put on weight.
Peace your advice to say that the school have recommended she see a GP, rather than me dragging her there, is really helpful and I'll definitely tell her that.

what really doesn't help is that she's in a friendship group that are all obsessed with their weight and the Internet is a nightmare.

OP posts:
PeaceOfWildThings · 22/05/2015 22:06

DryWhite - just make sure you tell the very the truth. She is going to have to trust you. Go to see the HOY first and talk it through, ask what the school would recommend (even though if you need to spell it out.)

Drywhiteplease · 22/05/2015 23:01

Will do Peace. We are very close and I really want her to keep talking to me.
she is away on a school trip until Sunday. I'll talk to her when she gets back.

OP posts:
Kvetch15 · 23/05/2015 08:07

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Drywhiteplease · 25/05/2015 16:29

DD came down in a pair of black skinnies today. They are so big now, she looks so thin. Had a chat and we weighed her. She's lost a stone. Admitted she's scared about it but doesn't want to put on weight. I told her she needs to eat a little bit more. I think she took it on board, whether she does it is another thing.
Am going take appointment with GP for her booster jabs and pre warn about my concerns. Also book a gluten test to see whether her 'intolerance' is genuine.
I spoke to her friend's mother who is having the same problem with her daughter . Are get all like this?
It's so hard to be cool about this when I just want to tell her to eat more.

OP posts:
Tryingtokeepalidonit · 25/05/2015 20:10

When my DD2 was 15 her dad died suddenly in the January and by the time she had her GCSEs she had an eating disorder. I noticed she had lost weight but because she was always tiny I didn't realise how much.
The GP was good but what really helped was therapy we accessed through the Girls Friendly Society. 4 years on she is nearly a healthy BMI and enjoying university. We still keep an eye on her because her reaction to stress is not to eat but she now seems aware that this is a warning that she needs to talk to someone. It is a difficult balance and one of the ways we got her to cope was to let her cook her meals and put the portions she wanted in tubs. So she ate a lot of chicken, veg and rice. Now she does this with her boyfriend each evening and I think it helps that he is focused on gym/ health so when he nags her she sees that he is only bothered about health IYSWIM. Good luck it is a terrible pressure but it takes time but recovery will happen.

Drywhiteplease · 25/05/2015 21:26

Trying so sorry to hear about your loss. I am so grateful for your advice and that your dd is managing her illness.

OP posts:
Drywhiteplease · 01/06/2015 21:53

So I took DD to the GP last week.She went in by herself and told me what the Dr said. She is under weight for her height. She has to have a blood test in a week for her "gluten intolerance" and go back to see the GP in two weeks. The Dr asked her what she'd like to weigh Hmm I wish she'd given her a target.

I looked on the Internet to see what a girl her height should weigh. Between 8-9.7 stone. She's 8 stone now. We agreed that 8.5 should be a target. Whilst she recognises she has a prob ( apparently the GP said "eating disorder") and needs to eat more she's scared of putting on weight.

I read not to talk about food but how can I do this when I need to encourage her to eat? I can see this is going to be hard and take time. I'm so glad I've adressed it now.

OP posts:
PeaceOfWildThings · 02/06/2015 06:35

There must be a specialist eating disorder service in your area, Dry, the GP has probably referred your DD. As she is under 16 the doctor should be sensible enough to let you have this information if you phone up.

PeaceOfWildThings · 02/06/2015 08:38

D'Oh! I just lost a carefully crafted post when my phone alarm went off!

We found the time between seeing the GP and getting the assessment from ED services was really hard. Our ED services suggest you get weekly appointments with the GP to get weighed at this time. DDs were struggling alone with their illness and unable to accept my help at this stage. I suppose this meant I had examples of their ED thinking and behaviours, and it was very clear it was an ED. Only when they were assessed and told by a professional that I'm in charge, would they accept what food I prepared, and even then it it a gradual process. So both my DDs lost weight further at that stage and the GPs were pretty ineffectual against the EDs (but understanding and reassuring, and keeping us close).

You do have to talk about food, but not at mealtimes. Don't discuss what goes into evening meals. Provide a lot of different fruit and veg if shevwill eat that, or whatever she will have. Ideally, 'refeeding' is done with the help of ED services who can guide you to tailor your meal arrangements to your own DD's needs and particular behaviours and type of illness.

I can say what we did, but it was different for each child, and your DD is different again, so this is just an example, not a template. My DDs have anorexia. Treatment for other EDs is quite a bit different (if there is binging, talking about food is not done. However one DD claimed there was binging in order to avoid hearing things about food she didn't want to because the ED thinking was getting too much of a foothold).

After seeing the ED services counsellor and getting an assessment, I was put in charge of preparing all meals. I had to draw up a meal plan with limited input from DD initially (mainly fruit and veg based at first) go to weekly ED appointments with her for a weekly weigh in (hide scales at home) and only talk about weight and numbers in the appointment, if at all. If weight is lost, more calorie dense foods have to be eaten. It's that simple.

So, before the ED assessment, DD2 was not eating breakfast or a morning snack (probably wasn't eating lunch either although said she did whenever asked). When I started her meal plan after the first ED appointment, she insisted on making her own cereal (less than half a bowl of oats & Allbran and water). She'd then eat a half a banana or a handful of berries and a half slice of toast with thinly spread peanut butter or other spread . It would take her about an hours to eat. She would drink a large glass of water and green tea and rush to the loo. (Where she'd spit out the food she had squirreled away up by her gums).

Now, breakfast is:
a small glass of fruit juice or non-dairy milk,
a bowl of cereal (1 American cup of oats, 1 teaspoon of sugar and the spices she likes, cooked in microwave)
1 medium slice wholemeal bread with peanut butter,
Plus snack she has now at breakfast with me: 1 high cal protein bar (Pulsin, Cliff or Trek, not the low calorie diet ones).
It takes 20-30 minutes to eat now.

She didn't put weight on last week, and we want to stay dairy free, so I've explained that this is to step things up instead of having to cook with cheese and double cream for evening meals. That's been the persuader. So each step up is hard for her, but once the hurdle of introducing something more calorie dense is over, the routine is established and she gets on with it (not the case for older DD, every meal was a battle for her.)

So, before resorting to dairy, we could still go up to thick slices of bread, more peanut butter, fried breakfasts (we do egg for Saturday breakfast, could make itba full English, larger drink with added sugar (e.g. hot chocolate) and add a banana. DD knows that I'll only try that for one more week and then it will have to be full on dairy fest (this gives us very smelly farts and a gripy tummy). She does get 5-6 eggs and fish and meat in the week, it's the sugars and fats she has been low on, so now crisps and more healthy fried foods are coming into play.

Drywhiteplease · 02/06/2015 18:30

Peace thanks for taking the time to post this. It's really interesting to see what your DDs are eating.
For the last few months DD's as eaten:

Smoothie for breakfast (1/2 cup low fat cottage cheese or natural yogurt, frozen berries, 1 tbsp oats)
Mid morning apple
Lunch , a wrap with a slice of ham, thin spread of humous, spinach.
Then our dinner at home.( always small amount of carb,but pretty healthy stuff , fruit for pudding)
Maybe a handful of almonds and 4-5 dates as a snack after school.

Looking at that it's not enough.
She has gone from 9.9st to 8st. Not anorexic by any means, but not good.

Today she agreed to add a piece of toast for breakfast and had her nut and date snack with a banana after school.

She needs to put on at least half a stone.

Peace I can't imagine how stressful it must be for you to have both your DDs suffering from anorexia. Sounds as if you are doing so well with them.

OP posts:
PeaceOfWildThings · 02/06/2015 19:45

I'd love to say DD1 is eating well but sadly that isn't the case. We're not in a good place right now, all I can do is trust right now. Can't talk about it on here. :(

DD2 needs to put on about 2 stone to get near a low healthy weight. Today for lunch she had a tuna and salad sandwich, fruity soya yogurt, beef jerky, fruit salad and a small dairy free chocolate bar, almond milk drink.
For dinner, baked spicy tofu (half pack each) veggie stirfry (lots, with oils and a sauce) and plain chick peas.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread