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what holiday jobs can 15 yr old dd get for next summer?

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dolally · 05/11/2006 22:34

any ideas? I know it's early.. but she'll have REALLY LONG summer hols next year and I really need to plan (for her sake and for ours!) She'll probably be too young for most jobs.. anys suggestions welcome.

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lostinfrance · 05/11/2006 22:41

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dolally · 06/11/2006 08:15

thanks lost, good idea, in fact she adores animals... maybe she should ask the neighbours... it would be great if she could earn some pocket money too.

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brimfull · 06/11/2006 08:25

some of dd's friends are 15 and work in the local hotel ,in the kitchens I think.Others have had shop assistant jobs but I think most shops expect them to be 16,just depends.I know two 15 yr olds with jobs in specsavers,thought what they do heaven knows?!
DD is stuck with babysitting but will probably try the pub down the road a they take on kitchen and waitress help in the summer.

dolally · 06/11/2006 08:31

thanks for ideas, good to know what other 15 year olds are doing. Can they legally work at that age?

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brimfull · 06/11/2006 08:33

I think there is strict laws as to the number of houre per day they work.The local waitrose insists on 16 for that reason.

fortyplus · 06/11/2006 23:41

She can have an informal arrangement with friend & neighbours re odd jobs/babysitting etc.

Other than that her employer must have a work permit and there are restrictions on hours.

There is definitely info on this on the Hertfordshire County Council website - look under 'employing young people' or similar

JanH · 07/11/2006 00:01

IME little local shops seem to be able to bend the rules a bit for under-16s - has she ever done a paper-round? If she does one she could get in with her local newsagent and if ours is anything to go by they need to cover shop hours between about 6am and 10pm - she might be able to get in there.

This website has information on what they can do legally under 16.

fortyplus · 07/11/2006 00:07

It's not a case of bending the rules - you either obey them or break them, and who'd want their child working for an employer without a proper work permit for young people!

A 13 year old can legally work a paper round.

JanH · 07/11/2006 00:16

My DS1's birthday is in July - most of his school-year mates' birthdays are in September - they could all legally work all summer while he was waiting for his birthday to come round. Some rules are made to be bent (within reason).

fortyplus · 07/11/2006 00:38

That's fine till he has an accident and isn't insured and his employer gets prosecuted

fortyplus · 07/11/2006 00:39

ps Will you let him drive a car without a licence just because he's younger than his mates?

JanH · 07/11/2006 00:41

Well he is 18 now so that's not an issue

JanH · 07/11/2006 00:43

But I do feel the age requirements in this case are a bit arbitrary - they should be related more to school year than birth date.

fortyplus · 07/11/2006 00:55

Well you could be right, but then it would just move the goalposts so that the kid born on 1st Sept couldn't do what the one born on 31st Aug could do for another whole year. How could it work? Would you have a whole school year all being allowed to start work on the same day? It seems much more logical just to stick with a child's actual age. Following your logic, the only way to avoid an arbitary decision would be to introduce a 'maturity test'to determine the suitability of the individual for the task. I wouldn't yet qualify for the paper round!

Skribble · 07/11/2006 00:57

My niece did a bit of waitressing in a cafe and when I worked in retail, a few shops had saturday girls aged 15.

here is an up to date guide to working regulations for young people , it doesn't mention work permits, all employers must have insurance to cover employees, if they are legaly employing youngsters they will be covered by normal policies.

At 15 they can work up to 35 hours a week during holidays, as long as they get a break after 4 hours. They can't work every school holiday they should have at least 2 weeks off throughout the year, doesn't have to be the summer

Skribble · 07/11/2006 00:58

But do check out the job she will be doing as a lot of employers take the piss regardless of over or under 16, they take advantage of young people that don't think to question hours or duties.

fortyplus · 07/11/2006 01:09

In the guide for the employer it says 'You must notify your local authority' - wonder how often that happens!

Skribble · 07/11/2006 01:13

Oops somehow I skimmed over that bit, it does say you need permits for under 16's.

fortyplus · 07/11/2006 01:17

What on earth are we doing at one in the morning talking about paper rounds?!

I'm definitely switching off my PC RIGHT NOW!!!!

Night.

Skribble · 07/11/2006 01:20

LOL , very true. Night

fortyplus · 07/11/2006 01:21

Caught me out having one last peep...

SueW · 07/11/2006 05:33

Rules don't seem to have changed since I used to work at 15 - every Saturday and longer hours during the school holidays. A friend informed me that most places wouldn't take on her 15yo - not sure if that was her DD's fault (attitude!) or their own preference not to employ under 16yo.

JanH · 07/11/2006 10:38

Harping back to the school year thing; DS1 was still 15 when he finished his GCSEs, and technically could have left school and got a job at that point - except that nobody could have taken him on legally because he was still 15!

So yes, I do think consideration should be given to altering the rules for school-age children to "16th birthday between 1 Sept and Aug 31".

JanH · 07/11/2006 10:50

Sue, DS1 had to wait until the September after he was 16 before Sainsburys would take him on part-time; their rule is aged 16+, and not until GCSEs are over, but they had lots of "old" 16s already on the waiting list by the time he applied. It seems to be a standard thing for large organisations, which is why I suggested little local shops.

In fact the rules treat 15 & 16 the same way:

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