Bed time for 15 year old DS

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My nearly 15 year old does not seem to accept that 10.30pm or 11.00pm is too late to go to bed on a school night. He has to be out of bed by 7.00am to get ready and catch a bus and does manage this with a bit of nagging. But I really feel that he is not getting enough sleep. What time do your teenagers go to bed / sleep and how do you get them there at a decent time?

I think these threads always bring out people saying "no bedtime here, can't enforce bedtime on a teen etc"
Well I'm currently on my 4th teenager and she certainly needs a bedtime or she'd be faffing about all night!
Ds1 would have been the same but ds 2 and 3 always liked their sleep so settled themselves pretty much.
I really think it depends on the child and how likely they are to get themselves enough sleep.
Healthy sleep patterns are important in our society as we operate a pretty 9-5 existence.
Teenagers are fighting hormones which are not conjusive to sleep so encouraging a reasonable bedtime is often needed.

My 15 year old dd doesn't have a set bedtime, she generally goes up between 9.30pm - 10.30pm during the week. Later at the weekend and will stay in bed until lunchtime at the weekend if she doesn't have any plans.

Medge my two went to bed at 9pm when they were 12/13.

I don't nag my children about bedtime. They know when they are supposed to be in bed and often head that way at around about 9.45. If it gets past 10 we remind them. Then they go to bed. Sometimes they get a bit silly and piss about a bit and so we yell at them to go to bed, but it's pretty rare. They have always had set bedtimes, it's not really a big deal.

DD1 has been going to sleep at around 10:30/11 since she was about 13. She wakes up at 6:10 no problem, sometimes earlier.

My 2 14 yr old d's have a school night screen off rule for 9.30pm, supposedly lights out 10.30, but this is flaunted regularly, DH gets annoyed, but I am now starting to give up worrying, as long as they are up for school on time (have to be out the door for 7.45). Weekends we don't worry, and they stay up late and emerge in the mornings about 10.30ish.
I do like them to be upstairs by 10.30, just so DH and I can have some "adult" time, they usually comply, as they have their TV's and xbox up there, and they prefer to be in their rooms anyway.

As long as they are in their rooms and out from under my feet by a certain time then great. Cant force someone to sleep when they dont want to though.

I didn't set bedtimes for mine once they were teenagers.
At 14 DS1 would go to bed about 1030 on a school night. Now 18 he does much the same.
DS2 is 16 and always tired. He is often in bed at 9pm on school nights with a 0645 start in the morning.
Weekends they stay up until all hours.
If he seems to be getting enough sleep isn't yawning all day I would not interfere.

My 15 year old generally goes to bed around 10, but what occassionally keeps him up is gadgets - playing games on his phone, laptop etc, and I have to constantly remind him to keep them out of the bedroom. I told him he could stay up as late as he liked reading in bed, but no electronics and he has to get himself up at 7am each day. Needless to say not that much reading has gone on (sadly).

He's a rower so up very early at weekends too - I don't think he could cope with any less sleep than he's getting, and by the end of term he seems to get much more tired. A 14 year old is still growing and needs plenty of sleep, but I've also learned the hard way that putting a firm boundary in place early on saves me hassle in the long run (although every so often I get that wrong and have to relearn it all over again!)

I've never had bedtimes ,they learn to self regulate quite quickly .

no idea what time my 15 year old finally goes to sleep. he is always up for the school bus (with several calls and a bit of shouting) so its a battle i choose not to have - there is other stuff i need to work on with him at the moment.

My 16yr old goes to bed on her own steam, & is always up & out on time. My 14.9yr old goes to bed at 9, lights out at 9.30 on a school night, suits himself on a weekend, & 11ye old, bed at 8, lights out at 8.30. Sometimes they need reminding, but we did discuss & comprise times with each of them