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Summer holiday hell argghhhhhhhhh

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lucydaniels4658 · 28/07/2014 12:15

DD (13)is so demanding always throwing a paddy as i wont allow her to hang round in parks till 11 at night "all my friends are allowed ect ect " everything is very poor me poor me ! I have worked so hard to make sure she doesnt miss out im a single parent and its hard to make ends meet but she NEVER goes without. I cant have a conversation with her everything is met with a shitty tone and eye roll whilst glued to her phone.She doesnt help i have to nag nag nag to get her to even brush her teeth ! She shoves wrappers down side of sofa and generally does not even minor helpful chores unless i go on and on and on then i get sick of my own voice !She twists what i say to make her a permanent victim i say " I work so hard to provide for you and make sure you dont miss out and you wont even take your plate to the sink without me asking at least 20 times " she hears and tells people " im a mistake my mum hates me" argghhhhh! I know this post is very teenage and prob quite common i just feel so downtrodden i feel quite depressed during term time i speak with school daily about her defiance and lack of concentration or effort ! She can be lovely and sunny and sweet just feel like that side has vanished in last 2 weeks!I just feel like the holidays are a daily battle as met with demands of some party that has no adult supervision and then having to explain why not then a battle begins and she spends the day slamming screaming and stomping ! If i suggest a day in london or other activities shes only interested if it involves her aquring the latest trainers!

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slartybartfast · 29/07/2014 10:06

hope you have some good days. op.
just breathe, i should take my own advice. count to ten.

lucydaniels4658 · 29/07/2014 10:20

Yeah i know im not faultless I am single and with money being tight i dont get out much and cant take part in activities i used to enjoy ! Gone are the days you can buy them a whole wardrobe for 100 ! So she is my everything and im not busy enough to not notice every little thing then get anxious on her behalf ! Sure its the same for most parents single or not but when i was younger my mum was so busy my problems were kind of shrugged off so i eventually forgot where as i feel i fuel it a bit by worrying so much! But hard to stop ! At this age its rare to have a full week without a major drama .Even when shes out i get calls and texts "now shes told B that i slagged her off she wont talk to me what shall i do" or calls in tears! She misses telling me if shes had a good day so i only get to hear the awful stuff !

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affinia · 29/07/2014 10:55

If its any help whatsoever I was a hideous teenager, horribly rude and ungrateful and I had two parents who were supportive and tried everything to handle me according to the Book of Teenagers. They continued with the boundaries, continued saying no to those things which they genuinely felt were not age appropriate and eventually (including a drop out of school!) I turned out ok, got my degree and I fine upstanding member of community. I am in AWE of them, I know I caused them a lot of unnecessary grief and heartache.

Keep going OP, pick your battles and try to disengage when the screaming starts and find ways to let her know you love her but not the behaviour. You'll have done your absolute best and that's all you can do.

Only thing I would say is I felt my parents' gaze a bit too intently. Try and ignore her some of the time, give her some space (within your boundaries).

affinia · 29/07/2014 10:59

You can obviously disengage from appalling behaviour. Look at the way you handled that vitriolic and obtuse post about supposed racism without resorting to a slanging match and moved back to the point. If you are the same way with your DD you are doing very well!!! (Lots of shouting in our house this morning from which I should have removed myself instead of joining in - and not even teens yet!)

lucydaniels4658 · 29/07/2014 11:10

Haha Thanks ! I am quite patient but she is so persistent and i have a breaking point !

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AnnDaloozier · 29/07/2014 11:12

I am a bit of an expert on teenage girls. They are bloody hard work. I would try and avoid getting into the whys and wherefores of who said what on social media.

AnnDaloozier · 29/07/2014 11:13

When she goes on just say aha, ahum aha. And avoid giving opinions.

lucydaniels4658 · 29/07/2014 11:32

Thanks ! i try that but she is so persistent it never ends ! She isnt very resiliant to teenage girl drama!

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AnnDaloozier · 29/07/2014 12:02

You like an ! yourself though! Grin

lucydaniels4658 · 29/07/2014 12:09

I do indeed ! Its all just getting to me at the mo doesnt usually but build up of things.I know this phase will pass think im panicking about the school situation so everythings magnified.So loved reading her old school reports now i cringe and spend to much time wondering if its a reflection of my parenting.You teach them to object if they are treated badly ect but when its the teachers tricky! Its just a complete minefield and im struggling with it all!

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Mrscaindingle · 29/07/2014 19:26

Venus that was one of the more unpleasant posts I have read on here in a long time. As others have said if you are so bothered by the Op's use of language you could have pointed this out in a respectful way. All you've done here is make yourself look petty.

lucydaniels4658 · 29/07/2014 21:52

The comment seems to have vanished now .

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VenusDeWillendorf · 31/07/2014 16:48

I sincerely apologise and eat humble pie if I caused offence by my comment. Mea culpa.

I've seen this debate about that word before on MN, and it always ends badly. I think because there is very little fundamental understanding about irish sensibilities in the UK. Most Irish people are called Paddies. All 70 million of us worldwide. Same as English people are called Limeys.

But how would you feel if the word Limey was used to describe a Entitled Sanctimonious Dick. "He was such a Limey about that.."
You wouldn't feel so happy about it being bandied about day in, day out, would you?

People learn that terms cause offence and don't use them out of respect.
If people didn't learn, we would still be calling children with special needs all those horrible names they used to be called.
Or women called all those sexist names - and how we fight against that!
But we don't use those terms, because they cause offence.

Some terms are offensive. If someone says that they're offended, the answer isn't to look it up in a dictionary and say "there's no problem and what are you on about?", because your dictionary doesn't have it in it, or only as an aside, or is written by someone soho isn't sensitive to the issue.

The answer is to apologise for being racist, learn form it and stop using the phrase.

I've lived and worked in the Uk and I've had a lot of uneducated and surprisingly a lot of educated people show racism to me because of my Irish heritage.
I've since found out that the curriculum in UK schools doesn't include a lot about Ireland, except that there was the Irish Question, and a few rebellions that needed to be squashed. So it's no wonder that people in the UK don't know much about Irish people, their language or culture, or what they might find offensive.

So you'll have to take it as read Paddy is a racist term when used to describe a temper tantrum or brouhaha. Used in this way Paddy is a racist term. If you want to belittle that reaction and negate Irish people's experience well, someone else will undoubtedly pull you up on it in the future, and they might even be rude about it. So brace yourselves.

If you think about it, negroid is the word from which n*er is derived, but no one uses it, except those who feel they "own" it!
you don't use it because you've learned it causes offence.

It's interesting for someone like me (half and 1/4 and a 1/4) Irish English and other, to see how 'English' people think. You're so very good about not causing offence to those who look a bit different to you, but seem to have a blind spot for us Paddys. We really are divided by a common language. (Just as well we have our own Grin)

All that aside, I apologise for causing offence by my post, and sincerely hope we can all get along in future.

Bowlersarm · 31/07/2014 16:54

Have you not heard of the term 'whinging Pom' Venus? The Aussies use it as an insult against the English. I have no problem with it, so doubt I'd mind being called 'a Limey' as an insult.

ArsenicFaceCream · 31/07/2014 16:57

You started your original post venus by asking the OP if she in fact meant throw a pi or throw a nr (but you didn't employ asterisks).

Thus you didn't come across at the time as someone trying to educate or make a gentle correction or start a debate. You came across as pretty offensive. Far more offensive than the OP and very aggressive.

I hope that helps to explain the response you got.

ArsenicFaceCream · 31/07/2014 17:07

Sorry that sounded snippier than intended. I just meant that if you had posted some of that^ originally it would have saved a lot of hassle.

PittTheYounger · 31/07/2014 18:07

i don't think anyone was that interested in the Paddy thing. It was your patronising school marm way of delivering the message

lucydaniels4658 · 31/07/2014 21:52

I had no idea it was offensive never even made the association .There could have been a better way to educate and im not quite sure what was educational about making comments on my spelling!
But its done now happy summer holidays everyone ;-) .Today has been the first drama free day (touch wood) hoping the first of many !

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constantlyconfused · 08/08/2014 15:41

I have the same problem my DD has gone from last summer holiday being out the entire time with me constantly texting asking her to come home to now this summer holidays not left the house. So i've had both problems is this normal?! She doesnt seem unhappy as such just hanging round on phone in PJs ! Her and her friends all fell out on last day of term so it's all a bit quiet.So hard to entertain this age she seem's to have no interest in going anywhere unless it involves clothes shopping!

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