What weight would you consider fat?

[Bookmonster345]

Off the back of an old AIBU thread, about how teens are getting larger, I was just wondering what weight you would consider "fat" for someone who is 14 and
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Whilst BMI is often disregarded, it's a useful guide. [[http://www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/ The table here will give you info about the weight range that is deemed appropriate for a 14 year old.

I think a lot depends on their body shape/muscle. DD is 5ft 2 and very muscular from years of gymnastics. She is a size 6 - 8, but must weigh a lot heavier than some of her non-muscular friends.

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It all depends on the child's build and body composition. If BMI is overweight or higher then I'd use that as a indication to look at how fit and active/muscular the child is, what diet is like, whether it may be a case of growing out before going up, or just keep a careful eye on all of these things....it's impossible to label someone as fat based purely on numbers

Thank you, I was just wondering, as I have heard a lot of people moaning about the culture of obesity in our society

Well there is currently a culture of obesity! We're on holiday in a seaside town and the proportion of very overweight people is noticeably higher than at home (relatively affluent part of London). There are whole families where everyone, parents and children, is morbidly obese. If you were 'just' a bit overweight and those people were your normal frame of reference you'd think of yourself as either normal or even fairly slim...

it is fairly obvious when someone is too fat! Weight is not really a perfect guide as some people are just heavier.

just needs common sense. The half-dead on the catwalks are too thin, wider-than-tall is too fat. Be somewhere in between!

Yes, we are all getting fatter, that's an inevitable effect of central heating and motor cars.

What I'd like to see is a realistic BMI chart for women/men over 30, with realistic boundaries for significant health risks.

The present one indicates that short women can never ever ever weigh more than they did as teens. This simply isn't realistic if you've had DCs and have an even vaguely normal adult life style.

I only weighed 8.5 stone as a teen because I cycled everywhere and had no tits.

Surely it depends on the build of that person? Muscle weighs more than fat. But to give you an idea my DD is 15, 5ft 2 and weighs 47kg which is about 7st 4lbs. She is quite skinny.

I have a desktop calendar which features ads from the 50s/60s, and the one this weekend was for a girdle. I'll post it here.

Rather than being about holding it all in, which is what I always assumed girdles were for - along with all the fancy 'shapewear' that we may buy these days - this one is to stop your bones poking through your clothes!

I was shocked. But it also made me think that we have switched problems now. I can't imagine anyone posting about how to cover up their boneyness these days, whereas clothes to cope with rolls of fat seem commonplace.

I can't quite read the text, but I'm not sure it means the wearers bones.

I'd suspect it means it's modern stretch fabric without boning sewn in to give the girdle shape.

It's why Lycra was originally invented, then girdles went out of fashion and it went into dance clothes and then general fashion and now back to spandex.

actually it's even older than Lycra it's suggesting using Springlets

Not sure they sound very comfortable, either

Ah, yes! You could well be right, Elephants!

DS is 14yo & about the same height & weight as me (so 5'8" and 9.5-10stone). I guess on that basis I'd say a boy his age should weigh between 8.5 & 10.5 stone a that height. DS could be a lot fitter. Maybe try half stone adjustment for every 2 inches change from 5'8"?

For 14yo girls I'd be minded to think take 1/2 stone off those numbers & ranges. Heavier for adults the same height, of course, who have filled in.

Better to use body fat percentage than a persons weight alone.

www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx

My just turned 14 year old son is 5' 10" and weighs 10 stone. He could do with being fitter and more toned.

How do you measure body fat though?
I have DS1 18, 6'2" and weighs 10 stone 7lb. He is stick thin and his face looks gaunt.
DS2 16, 6'3" and weighs 10 stone 12lb. He is a completely different body shape to DS1 apple to pear, and looks much rounder in the face and body.

secrets I have scales that measure body fat (not sure how?) but you aren't supposed to use them for children but not sure how they define a child. Presumably by age but I guess it should really be by physical maturity as some 16/17 year olds will be fully adult whereas some 18/19 year olds wont.

My 12 and 14 year olds are adult sized but only at the beginning of puberty.

You use callipers and take measurements from the stomach area, thigh and the back of your arms.

I am 5 2 and as an adult my healthy weight range is 7 stone 6lb? To 9 stone 10lb. I am a size ten in jeans at 9stone 7lb but have 32g/gg boobs and a very hour glass figure at that weight. Currently need to loose 10lb, have already lost 8lb in four weeks running and swimming regularly. Luckily I lose weight easily when I exercise!

As a teen I weighed less, but was a late developer period/boobwise.

If I exercise loads I can get my weight down to under nine stone but ad my boobs never get any smaller I start to look very out of proportion!

To me, fat is something you can see, so it's not really about weight alone, but about what the body actually looks like. Are there flabby bits? Is there a roll of fat you can pinch around the abdomen/back/under arms. Can you see any ribs or other bone definition?

We don't own any scales, I keep a good eye on DS's body though, and just looking at it tells me whether I need to up his fitness and reign in the snacking. About a year ago he developed a little bit of a belly, so I made daily changes to both his fitness and his diet, and that has now gone and is replaced by a more toned abdomen with some muscle definition.

I use that on myself too. As long as my stomach is flat with no flab to pinch then I know I weigh the right amount for me.

over, how old is your DS? If I tried to feed mine less, he would just go and help himself/buy crap! Thankfully he is sporty and muscular.

As I said earlier, it is very hard to define what weight would be fat - DD is the same height and age as yours, peanut butter, but she is a 30EE with an hour-glass shape to die for and is a size 8 despite weighing over a stone more than your DD.

Agree with those who say weight would vary from child to child. MY DD at 14 was five 8 and weighed around 8 stone. She was size 6.