Sex on school residential trip. Yr10.

[Branch]

After lights out, two boys went to a room where 3 girls were sharing and had sex with two of the girls. The third girl left the room beforehand and went into another girls' room.

School have found out & suspended all 4 students.

The point of the thread Lottiedoubtie is that your real name btw? Is that I was basically offloading my thoughts on MY thread.

In answer to your question, no of course Lottie isn't my real name... Who uses their real name on MN?

Why are you being so rude?

Branch, this is going to turn into a bunfight if you don't help up to help you?

We're just stating facts? Or did you want advice. Or opinions?

That should read 'help us to help you'

I don't think defending my choice to name chgange is rude. Just because my thread doesn't fit your ideal, I am made to feel odd/a troll.

I am spectacularly spiky today and am objecting to being accused of being a troll, frankly.

Branch, I don't thin you're a troll. I just want to know what you are asking!

Christ, I can't type tonight. *think!

I didn't accuse you of being a troll so why were you rude to me?

I asked what you were hoping for with this discussion, so I could understand it a bit better and perhaps contribute more constructively. Others have asked the same thing. So could you tell us pease?

As I said upthread, I was offloading my thoughts. I'm not asking for advice, my DC wasn't involved personally.

I do get cross when acccused of something I'm not though.

Okay. So you've offloaded. Now what?

Right. So if you don't want discussion and you don't want people finding your thread odd then write a diary not a post on a discussion site. People are rightly confused.

Perhaps so Coconutty. I am extremely relieved my DC wasn't involved.

I do wonder at the sexualisation of today's teens though. I know underage sex occurred years ago, but I do think we were less pressured. I certainly wasn't governed by my hormones at 15 the way most teens are these days.

Lottiedoubtie, please don't tell me what to do. I can post when and where I like.

Ah, well at least we've got a discussion topic now Branch, thank you.

I agree. Though I think teenagers have always been influenced by their sexual desires, there are way greater pressures and casual sex seems to be more normal younger these days.

And I speak as someone with grown up children, who lost her virginity at 15 - to a very long term boyfriend though, in very loving conditions without any pressure whatsoever.

No discussion needed thanks Innogen. Was merely an observation.

You do know that mn is a discussion board? You write an OP, and open the topic up to discussion.

I'm not telling you what to do! I'm giving you friendly advice because posting on a discussion board and then doing your best to close down any actual discussion is the road to discontent. Feel free to ignore my advice, just as I'll ignore your requests not to discuss on YOUR thread (your capitalisation)

innogen I'm not sure I agree. I think teenagers have been ruled by their rampant hormones for century's- just look at Romeo and Juliet

And teenage sex rates have gone up and down as societies tolerance/acceptance of it have swung back and forth.

What concerns me with this generation is the way technology makes their past hang around forever though.

And it's also a place for people to muse.

's'nothing new.

Nice to have a gossip about teenagers and what they're up to, though. (Surely that's the point of your very own personal own personal thread?)

And teens, when I was a teen, a geological age ago, were all talking about and often doing sex, too.

Probably true Lottie. Do think teens in my grandmas generation has a stronger concept of shame though. They wouldn't have had sex on a school trip for fear of the gossip.

Social media and selfies and the recording of data have made prominent sexuality more permanent and public though!

The school should discipline the kids accordingly. In our schools, it would be a suspension. Jeeze, we have to sign a 3 page contract for our kids to go to Junior Prom. If this happened here (I'm in the States), there would be a bloody uproar!!!

Yes, there is something in that. In previous generations there was a sense of shame amongst the teens themselves. That doesn't appear to be present now, although I'm not sure it has been present for 15-20 years or so, so not nec. New.

Given that teenage pregnancy rates were verifiably higher in our young days than they are now, I don't know what this story is actually supposed to prove about today's youth. That they are no different from their parents despite the evidence of statistics?

And for the record, I don't remember social medias or selfies being around in my young days. Teenage sex certainly was, as can be easibly verified by looking up the records.

TheZeeTeam, the OP made it quite clear that there was outrage and that the students have been suspended. So exactly what you'd expect, really.

So what we learn from the OP seems to sum up as:

(a probably small number of) teenagers today get up to pretty much the same as (a small number of teenagers) got up to on school trips 30 years ago

they are punished in pretty much the same way as they would have been 30 years ago

Plus ca change.

Why was the third girl suspended? That's ridiculous.

Incidentally, when I went on a school trip at 14, the staff locked everyone in their rooms with a key from the outside, so there was no chance for any shenanigans. Alternatively, the girls and boys could stay at separate hotels/hostels.