Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Teenagers

Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

ive committed a faus pas....dd being bullied.

8 replies

ThatVikRinA22 · 07/03/2013 00:34

DD is 15 and has been being bullied by a group of very bitchy girls of the same age for a number of weeks.
dd is slight and small, quiet and studious - an easy target.

at the weekend these girls egged my house, my brand new drive and car.
the drive is stained - egg does not come off.

i logged a criminal damage complaint with the police. i am also a police officer. the ring leader used to be friends with dd. The bullies have been goading DD since the egging incident - they keep shouting about "eggs" and have put things on their facebook pages about eggs on a car etc etc...pretty pathetic stuff.

i messaged the ringleader asking her what the chuff she was playing at, that i had always welcomed her into my home, and that what she was doing was immature and silly. i also told her that i have cctv installed and that i had reported an incident of criminal damage with regards my drive. (its been block paved and finished for less than 2 weeks - egg causes permanent damage to brick work and also paint on cars...that said my car is older than my drive)
i told her to grow up and that any further incidents of damage to my property would not be treated so leniently. i wanted to say this in person but dd insisted i could not go to her house, or tell school as she thinks it will get worse. I figured since this now involved my house, my car and my property the time for me to speak up had come.

if i had any solid evidence that she egged the house/car/drive i would be down her on like a sodding ton of bricks. i wanted her to realise what she was doing.She and the others girls are talking about egging a car etc on social media but not whose car or when....evidence wise it wouldnt stick

dd did relent and speak to a trusted teacher at school. (In reality all i want to do is get hold of the little bastards but clearly not appropriate.)

DD thinks i have made it worse by getting involved. i thought it might nip it in the bud and make these idiots think twice.

What would you do now in this position. I cant do anything that compromises my job. CCTV does not show anything evidential.
They are now getting at her because i have got involved. She is upset with me for stepping in and 'fighting her battles for her' - i have explained that once they involved my car, my house and my property they involved me.

i so wish i had some evidence to get the stupid little sods arrested but i dont.

DD is pissed off with me though seems over it now...she leaves school in 7 weeks - she is going to college to do a level and they are not.

wwyd in this position? im finding it hard to sit on my hands.

OP posts:
2blessed2bstressed · 07/03/2013 00:43

I would probably have done exactly what you did...whether it was the right thing to do? I don't know.

BOF · 07/03/2013 00:44

Christ, I don't know. Just support her brought the seven weeks, I suppose, log it with the school staff, and consider speaking to their parents. Did you save the FB stuff?

ItsRainingOutside · 07/03/2013 00:45

If I were you, I'd make a formal complaint to the police whether you have evidence or not. I'd keep making complaints every time something happens, regardless of how small and be it against you or your daughter. Not trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs Smile but every complaint should lead to the police visiting their homes and they will soon get tired of that. 7 weeks will go by in no time and hopefully that will be an end to it. Good luck!

SirBoobAlot · 07/03/2013 00:46

Hi Vicar :)

She'll be pissed off at you now, but she'll thank you down the line. Honestly I'd just ask the school to keep a closer eye on things, and remind DD that it is only seven weeks left, and that college will be completely different etc. And I would tell the school what had happened in full, tbh. Especially if you know the teacher DD spoke to.

BOF · 07/03/2013 00:47

Through the seven weeks, sorry

ThatVikRinA22 · 07/03/2013 01:12

she seems to have forgiven me now but lord above she went mad this morning....

she has now at least talked to someone at school - it was getting beyond a joke.

roll on end of year. I want to talk to her mother who i know in passing but DD says she doesnt give a shit about her dd so wont be any use.

OP posts:
ripsishere · 07/03/2013 01:27

Can you get a colleague in uniform to speak to them after school?

flow4 · 07/03/2013 12:06

Vicar, I can't offer advice, but it maybe it will help you to hear my experiences... :(

We have had similar experiences, except that mine have been 'up a level' because what started as in-school bullying developed over the years... My DS is now 17 and knows some very unsavoury people through school and in our local area. Also, he is (or has become) gobby and sometimes 'fights back', which probably doesn't help situations...

We have had eggs thrown at the house and bits of minor vandalism and criminal damage. But more seriously...

  • We have had things stolen from the house, including 'minor' thefts such as alcohol taken by teens 'sneaking in', and a night-time burglary when our TV was stolen.
  • I have had damage to my car, including 4 wing mirrors kicked off (in 4 separate incidents).
  • DS has been beaten up and threatened. (Violence and fighting are very much part of the young male 'culture' round here, and sometimes DS has said he 'deserved' it for some fall-out or other... But violence is absolutely not part of my culture and it upsets and frightens me...)
  • We have had online harassment in public forums.
  • Just this week, we had a brick thrown through our window at night (when we were all in bed)...

Sometimes we have known exactly who was responsible. Sometimes, we have had strong suspicions. None of it has been 'random' crime, in the sense that it has always been targeted specifically at us (I think), though its motive generally seems pretty random - e.g. someone doesn't 'like' us (or DS). No-one has ever been successfully prosecuted for any of it.

I have felt huge upset, frustration, powerlessness and sometimes fear... Whatever I have done in each situation has not worked, and nothing has seemed like the 'right' thing to do, even with hindsight...

To start with, I used 'authority' (school or police) as my first response. I was slow to realise that this made me unpopular with parents and neighbours, who seemed to think most things should just be left to sort themselves out. Our first 'serious' incident outside school happened when DS was about 12, and was knocked unconscious by a 15 year old (for swearing at him)... But even the police seemed to think 'boys will be boys'.

DS was furious with me that I had involved the police and school, and even angrier when all the fuss (police interviews of him and other kids led to no official action) so after that, I let him make his own decisions when it came to harassment targeted specifically at him, but like you, I have made the decisions when it has been targeted at me or my house.

It is almost impossible to get 'anything evidential' (I shall remember that phrase). It is very hard to get fingerprints (forensics tried, after my burglary, and are trying again following this week's 'brick incident').

Talking to parents is very hit-and-miss IME. Most people don't seem to want to know, or look to excuse their kids, and on the few occasions I have done it, it has made me feel worse not better.

'Doing nothing' makes me feel like an idiot. And I think it led people - especially local lads - to think I was a soft target.

I can see why people 'take the law into their own hands'. I will not ever do that (because I am secretly an old hippy and believe "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"). But there is a cost to not retaliating. For instance, we know who threw the brick through our window (and he has stolen from us in the past too, and like your DD, he is someone who is a former friend), and DS really wants to get a group of friends together and 'get him'. I have asked him not to (not least because a broken window is better than a son in prison for ABH) and he has said he will not... But he is 'losing face' by doing nothing.

But the worst thing is, every time we 'do nothing' or the police fail to take successful action, I think it leads others (e.g. neighbours) to assume that we (well, DS) must have done something to 'deserve' it. People assume there is 'no smoke without fire'.

I understand why - when there is an incident, I also always ask DS if he has 'fallen out' with someone. Sometimes we can identify some spark - or we think we can - but in fact it makes me paranoid. On balance, I think DS is probably a pretty average teenage boy: mouthier than most, drinking and smoking more than he should but less than many of his peers, generally an OK lad, but having done one or two 'bad' things, and saving most of his worst behaviour for me... But sometimes I find myself wondering whether he's got up to things I don't know about, and all this is some kind of 'revenge'... The suspicion is really horrible.

FWIW, I think you are right to tell the girl involved what you think of her. IMO, a lot of teenage bad behaviour continues because teens don't think about the impact of their actions, and people rarely challenge them to make them think they just moan about them behind their backs.

I also think you are right to report each and every incident... But I wouldn't put any hope on that leading to anything much - you are a police officer, so you'll know how hard it can be to build a case.

If anything is said online, however, this is apparently easier to address. Take screenshots of everything you see. The police have advised me that it is possible to get a harassment notice after as few as two incidents of online harassment from the same person, so that would probably be worth considering...

Good luck with it. You certainly have my sympathy.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread