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my teenager refuses to move with us

17 replies

redcorker · 25/01/2012 13:55

First time posting on mumsnet so forgive me if this rambles or is unclear - it is a tricky one and I'd like to hear from anyone with a similar set of experiences or who feels that can advise on this.

We have 3 kids - 17 (DS), 15 (DD1) and 13 (DD2) and currently have 2 houses because one has failed to sell. The one we live in is in a rural town , the other is in a city. We relocated with my work to the rural location 6 years ago where the kids have been in school since. DS is currently doing AS and DD1 GCSEs - which she will have completed by summer. Since coming here it has felt like things have conspired against us to prevent it being the ideal move we had planned in our heads - DH's health has deteriorated a lot and he has struggled to work, we got flooded and had insurance claim refused, other house did not sell, DD1 went off the rails - the usual teenage stuff - and DD2 has had recent difficulties in school and is desperate to change schools - which, incidentally, has gone from a good school to an inadequte school (according to OFSTED) since the DCs have been there - although the 6th form is still good.
The current situation is that we remortagaged to buy the place we live in now and as a result have debts and are living in a house that has been far from comfortable since the flood while still having another bigger, vacant house which is , in comparison, luxurious. As fate would have it, a dream job for me has come up in the city where the other house is and I am pretty confident I can get it - with much improved pay too. DD2 and DH are pretty keen to move, DS not so keen but will give it a go as he can appreciate the bigger picture of practicalities and family finances. However DD1 is absolutely refusing to consider it - saying she knows she will hate it etc etc. I have applied for the job and seem to be the only shortlisted candidate.

I feel terrible about making her move - and know that at 16 she can decide for herself anyway. If we made her come I can imagine that life would be far from peaceful for months and there may be a return of unruly teenage behaviour. I moved a lot between schools when I was a kid and so know perfectly well how disruptive this can be. Because of this I am considering, as she will be 16 when we go, letting her and DS -who will be 18 then - stay here to continue their studies (A2 and AS) where they are happy. My DH would/ could spend half time in both places as he needs to decorate the current house anyway and me and DD2 can come weekends.

I know legally this would be OK - we would not be breaking any laws - but I also know its unconventional and very possibly unwise. Both DS and DD1 are pretty independent- do a lot of own cooking and wash own clothes etc already so could deal with the practical aspects at least - but, will they behave and focus on work when DH is not around??
Am I being ridiculous even considering this? Has anyone done anything similar or been in a similar situation?

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Alphafemale · 25/01/2012 13:59

You're mad! Is my first reaction. Because:

  • presumably if they weren't there you'd rent it out and get some income from it?
  • 15 is too young to do the "I won't move" thing imo.
  • When she earns her own living etc then she gets to live wherever she wants to but for the moment you have to do what's best for you all as a family.

And will they behave and focus if you / your husband are not around? Er, would you have done at that age? I wouldn't!

IIWY I'd go for the job and if you get it then I'd make a decision but all moving to the larger house seems like the most sensible option.

Alphafemale · 25/01/2012 14:02

Hmm, maybe I'm being too harsh. But I wouldn't let the threat (or your fear of) disruptive behaviour affect my decision.

And at 16 she can do what she wants IF she can afford to rent somewhere, pay bills, earn a living etc.

How far apart are the 2 houses?

GypsyMoth · 25/01/2012 14:05

What are dd1's plans post gcse? How will you afford to run 2 homes?

Alphafemale · 25/01/2012 14:05

Or could your dh stay with them? Although it doesn't seem that great a solution to me as presumably you work FTOTH?

GypsyMoth · 25/01/2012 14:06

What are dd1's plans post gcse? How will you afford to run 2 homes?

GypsyMoth · 25/01/2012 14:07

Oops, posted twice!

schoolchauffeur · 25/01/2012 14:31

It might be legal but I really think it is unwise. Also I think the school would not be happy about it - a friend of mine was in a similar situation re her DD and went to talk to the school guidance counsellor about it who said that the school would not support the DD staying in the house when there was no supervising adult present to ensure school attendance etc I think it would be putting a lot of pressure on your eldest child in terms of being the eldest in the house. I think she will just have to accept that she is going to have to go with you- I assume that you will not relocate until she has done her GCSEs in the summer - leaving her to those unsupervised I think would be unfair on her even if she is a good worker.

redcorker · 25/01/2012 15:32

Thanks everyone for confirming my more rational thoughts.
DD1 wants to do A levels and we would not relocate until August Sept 2012 - after her GCSEs.
We could split the family with DH staying with DD1 (and possibly DS) I guess but my gut tells me that sometimes we really have to let kids know that family responsibilities and future opportunities have to take priority. Also as alphafemale says we could rent out to make affording the 2 houses more possible (given difficult seeling market now) but only if it was empty.Trouble is I cant help feeling that we would be forcing something on her that she would perceive is only a benefit for me (promotion etc) and that we didn't consider her needs. There are in fact lots of benefits for all 3 DCs to moving back to this city. For a start it has several universities and they could reduce their graduate debts by staying at home to study there (assuming they go to Uni of course)...also loads more facilities, easier public transport etc.....all these things have been put to DD1 but she is completely driven by her heart- leaving friends and fearing change - and can be very stubborn!

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paulapantsdown · 25/01/2012 15:37

She is 15 - she goes where she is told!
She must be made to understand that everything you do as parents is for her benefit too and the family as a whole. When she is an adult she can live wherever she likes. Sorry to sound harsh, but stubborn or not, she is a child and goes where her parents take her.

dexter73 · 25/01/2012 15:51

I think you are letting her have too much say in things. Things will be better for you as a family and she will just have to go with you. I would tell her you are moving and that she can decide to live wherever she wants when she is old enough and earning enough money to do so!

boredandrestless · 25/01/2012 15:57

I thought you were thinking of moving her before he gcse exams but seeing in your 2nd post that you would be moving in the august I think you should just put your foot down and say you will all be moving in the august. After letting the kids know this decision has been made I wouldn't continue discussing it, arguing about it, trying to convince her it is good because of x, y, and z. Stay calm and quiet about it.

darleneconnor · 25/01/2012 16:01

have you considered all the child benefit/tax credit implications of this?

What income will she/they live on?

RustyBear · 25/01/2012 16:09

If you all move, what will happen about your DS's A2s?

redcorker · 25/01/2012 16:21

Ok. So she has to go (even though she'll be 16 when we move and can, if she so decides, leave). We no longer try to make her see things from the broader perspective (her future and the family's needs) and just start to make plans. Do we pick her college/ 6th form for her and enroll her into the courses we think she wants to pursue because she won't get involved in any decision-making? I guess we have to!
Is it only me who has such a stubborn and unreasonable one?

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redcorker · 25/01/2012 16:27

RustyBear -DS's A2s seem to be with the same board (AQA) in his preferred college and so easy to move at this stage -although this will need scare as there may be some differences in syllabus versions and he will inevitably be a bit disrputed.

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dexter73 · 25/01/2012 18:51

I suppose if she won't pick a college/subjects then maybe you will have to do that for her too. I don't really see how she could leave home at 16 as she would have no income to find a place to live or support herself? Even if she did get a job she would be earning peanuts.

Alphafemale · 26/01/2012 14:45

I do think you're doing the right thing making her go with you. And if she wants to move out into the world, well, she'll have to pay for it. Bet she won't be keen to do so once she works out the implications of that.

Good luck, it's a hard one! Teenagers hey? Bastards! :)

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