helping teenagers to get enough sleep

[sleepymum50]

Hello, I'm new to the site, but wanted to ask if anyone has any tips for helping my dd (15yrs) get to sleep at night. Like many teenagers she won't go to bed early, has trouble falling asleep, then is really tired in the morning. She has a bedtime of 9.30 and get up of 6.30.am. But is often still awake gone 11.30. when I go to bed. I've recently done a massage course - and have just started giving her some gentle back rubbing while shes lying in bed and this seems to really help (just like being a toddler again). I know I could be making a rod for my own back but at the mo consider 15mins worth it, if it helps her. But obviously wouldnt want this to become a habit. We are due to change her bed and I want to make sure we get her a really comfy mattress. She comes from a family with sleep problems so I'd like to nip this in the bud. If anyone else has any ideas I'd be very grateful. I've heard that "screens" ie computer, tv etc before bedtime is not a good idea.

My DD is 15 and I let her sleep as long as she likes at weekends.

Sometimes she comes home from school (they finish so early some days!) and loves to have a nap, maybe just 30-45 minutes.

thanks linerunner I do let her sleep in at weekends, does napping stop your daughter falling asleep later tho?

At the moment my DD will be asleep by 11pm, and has to be up most days by 7am, and some days has a nap after school if she's home at 'normal time' i.e. 3.30pm.

A very good question sleepymum.
I've read that teenage body clocks are genuinely different and somewhere they experimented with a much later school day and found the kids to be more alert and have better concentration.
I used to think DS was just exaggerating when he said he couldn't get to sleep because he was so tired in the morning, but I believe him now.
he's in bed by 10pm but I don't think he ever gets to sleep before 11pm and is up at 7.15 on school nights.
Although he sleeps in at weekends he stays up later so defeats the object of a lie in.
DS2 is 13 and now starting to follow the same pattern.

both my teens dont sleep early dd1 is the worst i leave them to it , i expect dd2 in bed early on a school night shes 13 . i let them sleep at weekends dd1 works and has college TBH i leave her to get on with it she manages her own sleep , I think leaving them to just go to sleep and accept the morning might be a drag OP, your dd is 15 and i know you worry but sleep is her own responsibility now , although i do switch the wifi off so they arnt on phones all night and suggest they go to bed at a decent time ,

and no tv and computers an little while before bed is a good thing , since mine were little they never got the tv on in bed during the week , and as i said before switch the wifi off ,