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DD 16 and Bf 15- does this seem fair or have I been too generous??

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schoolchauffeur · 06/01/2012 19:07

DD16 has first boyfriend 15. They met at the same boarding school and have been a couple for 4 months now. He visited a couple of times over holidays and due to distance stayed over twice. DD has always been very sensible/trustworthy and not much into boys until this one came along. We liked him very much, he treats DD really well and seems much older than his 15 years- will be 16 late summer. DD assumed ( correctly!) that sleeping arrangements would be him in spare room. We allowed them some privacy - rules were they had to be in their own rooms by 11.30 ( so we could go to bed!) and that they were free to spend time in each other's rooms during the day but that they needed to be dressed and that I should be able to knock and walk in without having to hang around outside- infact they left the door open most of the time and spent a lot of time downstairs anyway cuddled up on sofa watching films. It seems like a lovely relationship - sounds soppy but character and interests wise they are the perfect match and I think it could have the making of something longer term. Both clever, work focused, ambitious slightly quirky teens- don't like parties, alcohol etc. Both close to their families and enjoy family outings- happy to come to cinema with us etc.

Due to exams/school commitments etc it is now unlikely he will visit again until the summer. I have told DD that these rules will stay in place until bf is 16 ( end of summer) but that if they are still together in the October break I would still offer him spare room, but that provided they are discreet and that we have visited clinic to get pill/implant I am happy for them to sleep in whichever room they choose. ( discretion needed due to younger DS). I discussed this with a friend of mine who thought I was nuts and said that not before 18. My point is that when they are at school they are not allowed any physical contact ( other than the odd cuddle and snog at end of disco and would be expelled/suspended if found together doing anything more) and that when both aged 16,wanting a physical relationship ( even if not a full sexual one) is completely normal. My friend said that they should just "go somewhere else"- my point is like where? We live in a rural area, his family live 100 miles away ( and have much younger siblings so could fully understand that this would not happen at his house) - are they really supposed to wait 2 years before being able to do anything other than have the odd snog? Doesn't seem realistic to me and am worried that may encourage them to take a risk at school.

Have also made the point that if this relationship ends- any new relationship would have to be 6 months old ( and both over 16) before I would allow same thing again. DD says they have talked about sex but don't think it is right until bf is 16. I made the point that just because they are old enough they don't have to do it and she said that it would have been nice if they could have snuggled up together and gone to sleep together. I agreed with her but explained that these things have a habit of getting out of hand- not that I didn't trust them but that it is not a question of trust but more of what will be inevitable. It was a great conversation and we had a lot of laughs so I am hoping I have paved the way for her to be open with me about what is happening.

So my question is- have I done the right thing? Total novice when it comes to teen relationships ( since my own of course when my mothers oh so helpful advice when I left for uni at 18 was "be careful"- no idea about what she never said....) so any advice from the experts here gratefully received.

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balancein2012 · 09/01/2012 21:58

Excellent point ragwort about future boyfriends.

I have spelt out to my DD that this is a one-off situation with her current (first and only) boyfriend (where I am being more liberal than I ever thought I would) and it is because of a number of things - he's a completely fabulous boy, we know him very, very well, know and like his family, see that they are great together and a very good influence on each other, she's continued to do extremely well at school etc etc etc and I am being reasonable with her because she has been completely straight with me all along.

I have assured her that if they finish at some point in the future and there is a BF Number Two, that all bets are off and we will go back to square one.

I worry, too, schoolchauffeur that I am being too generous but I also know I don't want to be strict/ old fashioned/ unrealistic as I know that teenagers will probably just go ahead and do what they want to do - but lie to you.

I haven't got all the answers and God knows I question my mothering on an almost daily basis but I really do think it's best to encourage them see that they can trust you with the truth about their life and that you won't go off on one. To encourage them to talk about things and try to be reasonable. That way they stay close to you and you can be around to offer help/ support/ advice if things go wrong. With everything, really, not just relationships.

schoolchauffeur · 10/01/2012 12:34

Yes good point Ragwort- I have said that these rules only apply to this BF- if there is another one at some stage all bets are off and we are back to square one ie establishing trust over a period of time ( thinking around 6 months), we must get on with him and feel comfortable with him in house. I am not bothered about him seeing me in my dressing gown- he already has as he has been staying in the spare room and I always do breakfast in my dressing gown. I had brushed my hair and washed my face - I didn't feel embarrassed and I dont' think he did- the whole family were in dressing gowns- he was in Pjs and a hoodie -perfectly respectable!Balancein2012 I agree I still worry about whether it is the right thing- I am not worried about appearing either old fashioned or cool- just trying to figure out what the right thing to do is to keep them both safe and to allow them to enjoy a normal healthy young adult relationship and to be realistic about the situation. I would hate it if I thought they were sneaking off to other places to have sex and lying to me rather than safely under my roof! If I am honest I would probably say I would rather they were a bit older, but they are both very mature, sensible, the relationship is not detracting from school, other friends, hobbies and other commitments, in fact in DDs case her grades have gone up I think because she feels confident, happy, wants to get on and get work done so she has spare time to spend with BF. I agree entirely that it is all about keeping communication going and making them feel that whatever they tell you, you aren't going to go off the deep end ( even when your first reaction is to shout "You've done what!" ) but listen and help them sort out whatever the mess is and help them learn from it and move on.
I too doubt things a million times a day- we will never get everything right-but I guess that's what makes us interesting as people!
fortyplus- I am still debating about the bf parents. I think that is a discussion he needs to have with them. At the moment I told them when he first came to stay, in passing but without making a "don't worry they won't be at it under my roof way" point, that we had a spare room ( they don't so DD has to share with his younger sister) so it was clear that we had some boundaries/rules here. However, I think once he is 16, provided I know he is protecting himself and DD ( which I know he will from conversation with DD), I am still providing him with a room, it is then his decision whether he shares that with DD or not- I know his Dad has had "the talk" with him- although not what was said. I have only met the parents twice for about an hour, although we are planning to meet up in a couple of weeks. At the moment I don't think I need to say anything to them and I think actually I won't- once he is 16 he ought to be free to make his own decisions and I dont think once he is of age that they can dictate where he sleeps in my house particularly if I provide him with a room of his own. Would anyone really expect me to "supervise" their relationship until they are 18 ? ie not leaving them home alone, checking they have gone to sleep at night? Surely that would be like having toddler play dates for the next two years!!!

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balancein2012 · 10/01/2012 20:34

I think you're a really lovely Mum schoolchauffeur.

schoolchauffeur · 10/01/2012 23:10

Thanks! Not sure either of my kids would always agree with you!! Both of them went back to school today (boarding) and DH away on business so it's been a bit of an empty day so after reading your post at least going to bed with smile on my face!!

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schoolchauffeur · 26/01/2012 14:33

Just an update on this thread- there was a discussion on this topic on Jeremy Vine today on the back of a book which has been published called Not Under My Roof- available on Amazon- which compares US and Dutch attitudes to teenage sex in the family home. Have downloaded to my Kindle to see what it has to say and have asked my DD to read it too to see what we both think.

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balancein2012 · 10/02/2012 14:40

How did you get on with it?

Are we on the right track or wildly off course, schoolchauffeur???

schoolchauffeur · 10/02/2012 19:39

Hello- I was only thinking about you today and wondering how it wasall going with you. I have started reading it- its quite a difficult book- lots of research in it, but we seem to be on the same track as the Dutch. The books compares attitudes of Dutch parents with those in the US- Netherlands has a very low teen pregnancy rate compared to UK and US. Its interesting. DD and bf still going strong- apparently bf thinks I am cool because I listen to them and don't treat them like kids and he understands my reasoning. Between them they have decided that they are going to wait until later this year before taking things any further physically as they think it will make it more difficult for them when they are at school and they are not allowed any physical contact. So I think I have got something right there- or maybe they have!

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Rasidan · 11/02/2012 13:36

That arrangement sounds very reasonable, but I'm afraid I could never allow it. Dunno, just couldn't handle it as well as you did.

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