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Guinea Pig novice!

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ceeveebee · 28/02/2021 17:42

Hello - my DC are desperate for a pair of guinea pigs and I’m starting to relent but I haven’t a clue where to start. They’re 9 yo twins so think it’s the perfect age for them to start looking after an animal?
Firstly I wasn’t even sure where to buy - do people generally get from local breeders? Or pet shops?
And is it better to get two males, two females or one of each (neutered presumably)
And then where to put them? DH would prefer them to be outside, we do have a large garden but can they be out all year round? And how would we protect them from foxes? We do have a children’s playhouse which is quite big so perhaps the hutch could go in there?
The other alternative would be in the utility room with the washing machine, but would that noise bother them?
So many questions! If anyone can give me the basics, or point me to any websites or resources that would be great
Thanks

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ClarkGriswold · 28/02/2021 17:45

We're getting guinea pigs in a month, I've joined a Facebook group called Guinea Pig UK which is great and has lots of posts you can search through about almost everything. I think it's not recommended to have them outside until the temperature is consistently 15 degrees and over including overnight. I'm a vet but know very little about actually keeping them so have been trying to do lots of reading!!

ClarkGriswold · 28/02/2021 17:47

guinea pigs* UK!

KibeththeWalker · 28/02/2021 17:47

They are nicer pets indoors in a C&C and then outdoors for a run on the grass in the shade when it's warm.

Two girls is easiest, because if you lose one a female will usually accept a new female friend, whereas it's much harder to bond males. They don't like to be alone. That said, my 'last pig' lived out his days happily alone, but we had him in a C&C at the end of the kitchen in open plan house, so he had a huge amount of human company.

Bagelsandbrie · 28/02/2021 17:53

Indoors is better if you can. Google c and c cages. The larger the better and you can custom build them. We have 5 indoors in a huge c and c cage in our kitchen / diner. They make a lot of noise - which we love- but be prepared! They wheek with excitement and work really well as a fridge door alarm!!

We have 2 boys and 3 girls. Originally we had 2 boys, one died and we neutered the other one intending to put him with a girl and then fell in love with 3 girls... then the boy died and then we got another 2 boys and kept them separately until we neutered them! It’s never ending BlushGrin we just love them.

They are gorgeous, sweet, friendly animals. But they are also huge wimps and are scared of everything.

Try and rehome from a local rescue if you can.

Bagelsandbrie · 28/02/2021 17:55

Meant to add, although they are scaredy cats they get used to things. Our kitchen is noisy - machines going, hoover, etc etc and they’re fine now. They did hide at first so when I used a noisy machine I used to give them some veg afterwards- now they go mad if the hoover comes out as they reckon they’re getting strawberries or whatever (and they usually do- soft touch!)

TurkeyTrot · 28/02/2021 17:57

Are you anywhere near St Alban's? There's a fab guinea pig rescue center there, which does adoptions.

ceeveebee · 28/02/2021 19:08

Ooh thanks everyone for the tips! Lots of food for thought.
I’ll join that Facebook group thank you and take a look at the c&c cages.
Not near St Albans unfortunately - Cheshire / Manchester borders.

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22Giraffes · 03/03/2021 14:26

I really recommend the Guinea Pig Forum website, they are really knowledgeable and friendly, and have guides for everything!

@Bagelsandbrie I also now have 5 piggies, had 3 and then recently we got 2 new ones!
Can I ask what size your c&c is to accommodate the 5? My 3 are currently in a 2x5 with 1x5 upper level but of course I need to expand it when the new pigs are ready to move in. Thanks!

Bagelsandbrie · 03/03/2021 14:58

@22Giraffes

I really recommend the Guinea Pig Forum website, they are really knowledgeable and friendly, and have guides for everything!

@Bagelsandbrie I also now have 5 piggies, had 3 and then recently we got 2 new ones!
Can I ask what size your c&c is to accommodate the 5? My 3 are currently in a 2x5 with 1x5 upper level but of course I need to expand it when the new pigs are ready to move in. Thanks!

Hi,

We have an 8x4 c and c cage. Originally we had a 6x2 for 3 girls and then got more grids and expanded it for the 5 to go in altogether. We got the correx (coloured base plastic) cut to size from eBay as none of the online suppliers offered the size we wanted and we didn’t want a join in it as it’s harder to keep clean. It takes up about a third of our kitchen/diner...! Blush

ClaraTheImpossibleGirl · 03/03/2021 21:23

@ceeveebee my 5yo DTs are also desperate for guinea pigs after watching a CBeebies programme about them!! I quite like the idea but would have to make sure that the piggies were happy to be handled (a lot!) - we have an older cat but he just runs away from the DC to spend his days peacefully in the garden, obviously the piggies couldn't do that...

@TurkeyTrot we are within travelling distance of St Albans (well, we will be once lockdown ends!), would a rescue be our best place to start? As I say I'm not averse to the idea but I know that the DC are so enthusiastic to have a pet that they can stroke that I'd like to make sure guinea pigs are the best choice!

ClaraTheImpossibleGirl · 03/03/2021 21:49

Also if anyone could let me know if a rabbit hutch is the same as a guinea pig hutch that would be very helpful; someone near us is selling one (a two storey hutch + rabbit run), would that be suitable? I'm guessing if we had the hutch inside rather than in our shed I would have to keep it in a room that the cat couldn't get in? He is quite old but might still have a go at catching some small furry creatures...!

Bagelsandbrie · 04/03/2021 08:07

@ClaraTheImpossibleGirl

Also if anyone could let me know if a rabbit hutch is the same as a guinea pig hutch that would be very helpful; someone near us is selling one (a two storey hutch + rabbit run), would that be suitable? I'm guessing if we had the hutch inside rather than in our shed I would have to keep it in a room that the cat couldn't get in? He is quite old but might still have a go at catching some small furry creatures...!
Guinea pigs can live in a hutch but generally speaking they’re not big enough and although people will tell you it’s okay for them to be outside generally they prefer to be inside and the winter months are too cold. If it’s a very long hutch (5-6ft) kept indoors it may be okay. Double storey cages or hutches aren’t good - guinea pigs like to roam and do a lot of running about. Having a “loft” area in a cage (like a loft in a large c and c cage) is okay but I’ve always been told you shouldn’t count additional levels when calculating space. Longer is best.
Bagelsandbrie · 04/03/2021 08:11

And yep cats will have a go at catching a guinea pig! Smile

ClaraTheImpossibleGirl · 04/03/2021 12:38

Thank you @Bagelsandbrie! I'll probably have to wait a bit then till we have a room which is clear enough to put a large cage and run in and where we can shut the door so the cat can't get in. He's pretty old and lazy but even he might decide that the small furry creatures are worth his effort...!

Earlybird00 · 05/03/2021 20:41

I am following as we are in the process of getting 2 guinea pigs. We bought a c and c cage from Kavee 5 x 2 with a lid as we have 2 cats. We have set it up in my daughters bedroom. Wondering is there much smell if you spot clean daily and would they be noisy at night? Seems to be alot of boy pigs but no females in our area. I was hoping to move them out into the garden in the summer but worried about mice and rats being attracted to any food. So much to think about!

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 06/03/2021 01:25

Lots of questions here - if you don't mind reading through my waffle I'll tell you some about my pigs .

I kept guineas from when I was 9-22 ( this was in the last century Grin ) Then my DD wanted A Pet ( she wanted a hamster because her friends had them, but I persuaded her to Think Pig )

Ours were all from Rescue , all adults apart from GP3
We started with two adult , solid , un castrated brothers .
They had our DC wooden playhouse (floor space was 6'6" x 6'6" and I could stand up in it ) DH did all the alterations-
2 windows could come out the gap was filled with bars, chicken wire and mesh to keep out predators and flies .
He put in light and a power switch for a fan or heater
They started with 3'x3' haybox made from an old cupboard laid flat (the door made the 'lid' ) They had deep hay beds .

Boars need a lot of space . We had an indoor 4x2 cage that they hated (for night in winter indoors) We ended up buying a pen , then C&C
C&C is good but the hay gets everywhere even with a liner

My pigs didn't like ramps , they liked ground level.
They had a big Bunny Business run that we could peg to the ground (84" x 48" and about mid thigh height ) They don't dig but other animals can dig in.

When one died we got piglet GP3 to bond (6 weeks)
Then we went through the cycle of one dies/add one

Bonding new pigs takes planning and we thought we cracked it ..until we got GP7/GP8 (sows) to add to GP6/GP4/GP5 ( neutered boar+ 2 sows)
It didn't work . We had to keep them in 2 groups ( their original) until we were down to the last 2 ( our boar and the less stroppy from the 2 sows ) They bonded and had a few nice weeks before he died .

So- they need protected from everything.
Damp , draughts , changes in temperture , too hot , too cold , damp grass
Over gorging on grass can give them bloat
Over eating dark greens can give them bladder stones
They need Vit ( in their pellets ) and food
They need hay
Predators -fox,cat,dog,badger,ferret,rats
Poisonous plants - they do tend to ignore but you need to check the lawn and don't give iceberg lettuce,onions,any bulb,potato, too much fruit
They are not the sharpest tools in the shed and very defenceless
They don't jump high or kick. They don;t scratch . They cannot turn their heads quickly .
But for all that , even with rodent teeth they really don;t bite unless they are pushed to it . You have to give a guinea pig reason to bite (unless it was my GP5 , she would give a 'gnaw' if she saw fit)

Boars or sows?
My DD wanted a boar so we started with the 2 boys .
Boars are tidier ( my sows were messy ) but don;t smell like many other male rodents .
Neutering won't change them except make them sterile. (And reduce risk of impaction )
A lot of Rescues will castrate now to make re homing of boars easier .

Our pigs had the small bedroom (no door on it and I put the radiator off) in winter . They liked to ignore water until 3am . They liked to chew cardboard at 4am.
They are active dawn/dusk . They eat like locusts then when its quiet eat their first pooh (very discretely)

They are cuddly and in time will give you a warning when they want to pee (moving, stamping their feet . You;ll miss the forst few warnings then learn Grin )

They have quite specific health needs , they go Well-to-Dead very quickly .
You'll need to keep their claws trim they don;t blunt them walking .

When we had our two groups I had a rabbit hutch (legs cut off) it was a bit bigger than a guinea pig hutch , it was inside the shed . The sleeping area isn't big . We had it open (door cut out) removed the inner wall and filled it up with hay .

They went through loads of hay , newspaper . Some people like fleece .
I used it on the floor of the C&C and a cardboard box of hay to sleep in.
Washed in a PetBag to keep the hay from ruining the washine machine debris

They are lovely. Cuddly.Gentle.Noisy.Messy.Greedy.
I do miss ours but they are hard work

CherryMaple · 06/03/2021 06:51

We got three baby female guinea pigs in October from someone who shows guinea pigs. Baby sows were hard to find. Never had guinea pigs before. We keep them in a C&C cage on fleece in our kitchen diner. Things we’ve learned:

  • They didn’t get on - the most boisterous one bullied the others and is now kept separately with a divider across the cage. (Some hierarchy is normal, but she left one of the others bleeding...)
  • They are gorgeously interactive, wheeking for food.
  • I find cleaning them out very easy on fleece with washable pads underneath, but the Kavee C&C cage is flimsy.
  • They hate being picked up, but when you have picked them up they will happily sit on your knee.
  • They love their food.
  • It’s amazing their personalities are so different.

When we first got them, I felt we’d made a mistake and should’ve got rabbits - we’ve had lovely rabbits before - because the GPs hated being picked up so much and were just terrified all the time. However, they’re blossoming more now, and it’s just taking time. They love food so much, that hand feeding them on your knee or during floor time seems the best way to bond with them. When the three kids are sitting watching TV with a GP settled on each lap, it feels like we made the right choice Smile

Earlybird00 · 06/03/2021 07:18

Really interesting reading your experiences. I might have to get cable ties to reinforce the kavee cage as they need to deter cats. The plan is always to close the door but there will be lapses. I have ordered fleeces and plan to try and make more myself as shocked by price of them. Also bought rewashable continue sheets from Age UK. Planning to by a small cat litter tray and fill that with hay. I read they may toilet in one area more than others? I imagine once you get going with them it gets easier. A couple of years ago we got a leopard gecko and there was similar planning for him - now he is nice and easy!

CherryMaple · 06/03/2021 12:22

@Earlybird00 We’ve used Ikea fleeces for a couple of quid each Grin

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 06/03/2021 14:43

We’ve used Ikea fleeces for a couple of quid each

The Ikea ones are ideal. IIRC they were £1.50 when I bought some , (grey) , no pesky blanket stitch that you need to cut off ( or they'll eat the threads)
Thin enough to wash/dry and coarse enough to wick the pee .
Very plush fleece just lets the pee sit on the surface .

Buddy Brush ( to remove stray hay/pooh)
PetBed bags to keep it all in and protect your machine
Non scented detergent (pigs are respiratory sensitive) no Zoflora etc
No conditioner , it stops the wicking

Though given a choice they liked a big box of hay Grin

clareykb · 06/03/2021 14:51

Hi I am a newish guinea pig owner and am a fellow twin owner too! We have 2 sows, we got them in the summer, I would have loved to get them from a rescue but there were hardly any sows at our local one there were mainly groups of 3 boars and I was worried about space. Ours live inside in the winter in a large feroplast cage, they also have a pop up run where we put them for some of the day, they have a big hutch and run outside where they go in the day if warm and live in the summer which they love, they like being out on grass. When we got them they were pretty shy but not any more!

clareykb · 06/03/2021 14:52

Oh and I just brought fleece from a market stall type place by the metre was much, much cheaper

Moonflower12 · 06/03/2021 15:49

@clareykb
So can it just be fleece material? And you just line the bottom of the cage with it?
I've been using old-school wood shavings in our indoor cage.

clareykb · 06/03/2021 17:27

I use puppy pads with fleece on top

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 06/03/2021 19:30

Moon you do need something under the fleece , it's designed to wick the moisture (pee) through and leave the top layer dry so it has to go somewgere (and guinea-pigs do pee a lot Grin )

Puppy pads are good if your pigs don't chew them, they've got plastic backing.
If you want to avoid single-use maybe those washable bed pads aimed at children? I recycled some old HippiChick ones to our first pigs

Good layer of newspaper on top (take out the staples) of puppy pads helps

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