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Please tell me about rats

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whyhasmyheadgonenumb · 22/08/2014 17:37

I really want one!!

A friend of mine was reminiscing about a rat she had a few years ago and she sounded so lovely, she would follow my friend around the house and hide her treats under her pillow and curl up on her lap in the evenings!! I have always had animals - cats, dogs, hamsters and a horse but never a rat. I dont currently have any pets as i rent but im sure my landlord would allow a rat in a cage.

I know i need a huge cage and plenty for them to do as ive read that they are very intelligent, is it best to get them in a pair? Where on Earth do you buy one? There is a pet shop quite local to me and i have seen them there but not sure if thats the right place to get one as they arent handled too much i guess? I have got children but to be honest it would be more a pet for me to spend time with when they go to bed!!

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PixieofCatan · 22/08/2014 19:41

Ooo, I'm a rat fanatic, I have one in my shirt at the moment :)

Best to get them in a pair or trio, I'd recommend a trio just in case something happens to one of them. We started with a pair of baby boys in January, adopted another pair (female, year old) in March and another pair of baby girls last month because one of our girls was dying so we needed to have some company for the female who was not.

The best place to get rats is from an NFRS breeder (National Fancy Rat Society), where abouts in the country are you? I bought my babies from two different breeders, my boys from a show breeder and my girls from a family breeder, I'd recommend both but the second pair of babies were so so much more sociable from the start. You can expect to travel for a decent breeder though. If you're South East let me know :)

You would need a big cage, I can wholeheartedly recommend this cage:
www.littlepetwarehouse.co.uk/hamberley-single-metal-large-cage-p-12607.html

I have my girls in this cage, held four quite easily :) The cage spacing is perfect for babies and girls, though be careful on that site as they say a lot of things are suitable for rats which aren't. All metal cages have the advantage of not being escapable, our rescue girls chewed through two plastic cage bottoms, our boys aren't chewers though.

They need quite a bit of time out, at least an hour a day, but a lot of that can just be shoulder time, we rack up an hour in shoulder time for our five easily enough.

Don't be fooled into thinking they're all lap rats though, girls are more likely to be active whilst boys are more likely to be docile, but it's all down to personality. One of our boys loves to sit on our shoulder, but he also loves running around behind and under the sofa! Once they're a bit older and less active you can free range them in a rat proof room.

They're lovely creatures, I love my mischief, but they have their pros and cons. You do need to research them before committing to buy them. They're susceptible to respiratory infections so I'd recommend listening to some sound clips of how rats may sound when ill. Once you get to know the signs you'll be fine though. Their claws can get bloody sharp too, but there are ways to control that and you can clip them but you should look up instructions to do that. I clipped mine for the first time last week and they survived ;) We kept our boys nails in control with rocks and slate in their cage for months, but they did like peeing on them! We've yet to replace them and have the scratches to prove it!

PixieofCatan · 22/08/2014 20:18

Pictures of my mischief:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/super_furry_animals/2160097-Rats-rats-rats

:)

whyhasmyheadgonenumb · 22/08/2014 23:10

Bless! Thanks for your reply, I'm in the midlands so nowhere near but I will definately have a look at the site. I'm pretty much determined to get a pair, I move in 2 weeks so ill wait until we are settled then get some. Very excited!!

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whyhasmyheadgonenumb · 22/08/2014 23:11

P.s I'm in love with the rat hammocks :)

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FruitBasedDrinkForALady · 22/08/2014 23:26

Weird question, but I was talking to someone about rats yesterday, and we had a long discussion about whether they can be toilet (litter?) trained. Can they??

PixieofCatan · 23/08/2014 08:29

I think you have some really good breeders up your way actually, I'd have to double check but Isamu might be up that way, they're very knowledgeable and on forums a lot.
Here's the NFRS breeder's list:
www.nfrs.org/NFRS_Breeders_List.pdf

It really is worth getting rats from a good breeders, you will now that they breed responsibly, have a family history of the rats, don't breed ill rats, etc.

Rat hammocks are our biggest expense, our local breeder has just opened a pet shop and sells them at a very reasonable price :) We were quite happy about that! You can use T-shirts and things too, but it's nice to have a few proper hammocks!

Fruit You can to a certain extent. They tend to pee everywhere (boys especially) but you can train them to poo in a tray. You just provide a tray, put litter in it (non dusty and not standard cat litter) and move their poo to the tray. They tend to poo in corners so you just put the tray in their preferred corner to start it.

PixieofCatan · 23/08/2014 08:34

Oh, you can't just feed them rat food from the shop either, it's not complete nutritionally. We use this as a generic guide to make our own homemade mix:
www.fancyratsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=56

It costs us about £60 to buy the stuff every 6-12 weeks, we buy extras to throw in their bowl each day too just to change it up a bit too and always change it around. We have a big tub that we mix it up in and a small tub for daily use that we fill from the big tub and it has a little scoop to make it easier to fill bowls daily :)

PixieofCatan · 23/08/2014 08:36

They eat everything though, ours get table scraps most nights and a plate/takeaway plastic tray thing of veg :)

PixieofCatan · 23/08/2014 09:56

I've annoyed myself now, they don't eat everything, there are some things that they cannot have:
www.ratforum.com/showthread.php?39486-Good-and-Bad-Food-for-Rats-amp-Ratty-Recipes

Fuzzymum1 · 26/08/2014 15:31

If you're anywhere near south warwickshire I can recommend Sam Redgrave of Rattie-Angels. She's new to the NFRS breeder list so may not be on the website yet. Her website is rattieangelsrattery.weebly.com/

She also has a rat hammocks site rattieangels.weebly.com/

She's lovely and so helpful with support after you take your babies home too. She has a couple of litters about ready to go but I'm not sure if any of them are available, and a couple more litters that will be ready soon.

PixieofCatan · 26/08/2014 19:19

If you're not fussed about type of coat/ears you will be able to get some quite quickly, but a lot of breeders have waiting lists for specifics. Our boys are just standard eared and we had no preferred colours WRT the coats so got them within two weeks, our girls were just by chance, our local breeder had two of the five girls available to go that day in her new pet shop, one happened to be a rex and the other standard so we took them.

Rex fur and dumbo eared rats are popular at the moment, as are hairless. Rex dumbos are very popular. You may find a waiting list on any of these depending where you are/how popular they are in your area, etc.

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