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E-Cuniculi and giving meds

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PinkSmash · 03/09/2013 11:08

My 4 year old house rabbit was really unwell over the weekend and was kept in at the vets. They think it's e cuniculi and have discharged her home with 3 different meds. They showed me how to give them at the vets and she was still quite lethargic then and it was really easy to give them to her with syringes.
Now 2 days later she's really perked up, still got some head tilt and ataxia but she's hopping around the floor and eating and drinking a bit more. Which is really great but I can't get her to have her meds now.
She's always hated being picked up, she's never been a cuddly bunny. She'll normally tolerate it for enough time for me to check her bum and use the flystrike spray but she'll be in a mood for a few days after.
I managed to get them down her yesterday but with great difficulty. I had to wrap her in a towel and still ended up with half her antibiotics down myself. I'm sure she must remember now because whilst she's happily hopping around as soon as i go and sit with her she runs and hides behind her cage.
I know it's really important to give her these meds but i don't want to stress her out either. Normally after i've used the flystrike treatment she won't eat for a couple of hours and I need her to keep eating as she was faecally impacted when I first went to the vets with her. I just tried to pick her up and she's sat in her litter tray and I can see her little heart beating so fast. I just don't want to freak her out when I've got a month of meds to try and give her.
Anyone got any hints to try and get meds down a very grumpy, very fast bunny?
Thanks Smile

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FernieB · 03/09/2013 15:04

Liquid meds? I once put the dose in a bowl and dipped carrot leaves in it and hand fed them to my previous bun who ate the lot. It took a while to get it all down her but she loved carrot leaves.

PinkSmash · 03/09/2013 15:44

I've got 2 liquid meds and 1 tablet to give her. I've tried adding ribena to the liquid meds and putting the tablet in a bit of banana to no avail. They're all quite strong smelling which doesn't help.
I'd not thought of that, she loves herbs normally. I'll try dipping some mint and basil leaves in the liquid and see if that will work. They might even mask the smell a little.
If no success I might just have to wait for my dp to get in and get him to try and wrap her in a towel while i syringe it in her mouth. I just hate stressing her out when she's poorly Sad

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FernieB · 03/09/2013 16:24

I've done the towel wrapping thing and it's hard. Had to do it on my own many times and ended up with scratches all over my arms.Hmm

Can you crumble the tablet and try and sneak bits in with her food or on some parsley? They are awful to get meds down. Good luck.

midori1999 · 03/09/2013 17:57

I have no idea I'm afraid, other than getting someone else to do the holding, but obviously that is going to stress her out. Having to do this is my worst nightmare.

Great that she's showing an improvement already though, EC is awful, I hope you manage to sort something out.

Lozislovely · 03/09/2013 22:26

Nibby bun had this and I had to get No 2 son to crouch and hold Nibby between his knees whilst I administered meds via syringe.

Heart wrenching job but it was the only way - always a bit left on the end of syringe but luckily he liked the flavour.

Good luck Smile

DoubleMum · 04/09/2013 11:11

I've never had to do this but I've read on Rabbits United forum that some people put meds on little pieces of weetabix.

PinkSmash · 05/09/2013 20:50

I went for a combination of everyone's advice and have managed to give her her meds with not too much fuss.
I backed her up between my legs and lifted her body up towards me so she was facing out and I was crouched over her. I stroked her head and rubbed her ears while my dp syringed them in. Ended up crushing the tablet and dissolving it in water and syringing that as well as I just couldn't get her to take it whole. Lots of mint and weetabix after and she's not been too upset with me.
She's still quite ataxic and rolling at times and the head tilt is still there but she's getting a bit more like herself everyday.
She's back at the vets for a follow up next week but does anyone have any experience of how much improvement to expect?

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Lozislovely · 05/09/2013 21:44

Oh Pink so happy you got the meds in Grin

I don't think there's a text book answer with regards to improvement. I have a friend who runs a rescue and she has had countless buns in her care who have been through it and survived, others have had to be put to sleep and others have needed literally a lifetime of medication.

My own experience was that Nibby had it once and recovered but the second time was too much for his little body to take. Be as vigilant as you can and never hesitate to get to the vets for the best chance of recovery.

Good luck x

PinkSmash · 14/09/2013 11:00

Thanks for all the advice everyone. Unfortunately we had to have her put to sleep Sad
She starting having seizures and while we managed them at first they starting getting more and more frequent. She was exhausted and after spending all night lying with her on the sofa with her fitting every hour I just couldn't let her go through any more.
The vets were brilliant and it was hard but at least I know we tried and she's not suffering. I'd had her from a baby and she was like a member of the family.
We're going to give ourselves some time and then look into getting a pair of rescue bunnies. Will never replace her but I know I can give some lonely bunnies a great home.
Has anyone regularly wormed buns as a preventative measure against e.cuniculi or is it just best to keep a very close eye on them?

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FernieB · 14/09/2013 16:03

So sorry to hear about that Pink. Sounds like you did everything and in the end having her PTS was the best and kindest thing. A pair of rescue buns are going to get very lucky Grin

Found this article which is interesting but not a lot of help:
www.rabbitwelfare.co.uk/resources/content/info-sheets/ecuniculi.htm

Also found this information on a vets website:
Can I prevent E.cuniculi in my pet rabbit?
At the moment there is not very much research into the disease. The best preventative measure we can currently recommend is a 9 day course of Panacur Paste for Rabbits every 6 months. If your rabbit has had E.cuniculi diagnosed previously, then treat every 3 months. If you are going to be moving house or getting a new rabbit then we recommend that you treat for 9 days again.
We started recommending this course of preventative treatment a few years ago and whilst it cannot guarantee your rabbit is safe, we certainly have seen a reduction in the number of cases of disease.

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