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Apparently I need botox

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monkeysmama · 12/04/2010 23:00

Ah yes. Went out with good friend at weekend. She has no kids, is 7 years younger and, if it matters, is about to be divorced due to his infidelity.

I am 34 this summer and care a lot about my appearance (night cream, day cream, eye cream, facials etc). Don't get much sleep, worked in a sun tanning shop for 3 years while at uni and tanned for 14 mins daily but stay out of sun since, like a drink, smoked 60 a day until 5 years ago . Was also a kick boxer until my mid 20s so have a few little stitch scars on my head.

Anyway, less than hour into evening (on second bottle of wine) friend says "you really need botox on those wrinkles under your eyes and above your eyebrows. The frown one is like an 80 year olds". As the evening (and wine) goes on she becomes more adament and criticial eventually offering to pay for Botox for my birthday!?

My question is simple: how do I look in the mirror without seeing THE LINE?

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MegSophandEmma · 12/04/2010 23:07

Not sure about the botox, but seriously you need a new friend!

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monkeysmama · 12/04/2010 23:09

Yeah, I agree. Am still worried about the line though!

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PrettyCandles · 12/04/2010 23:09

Don't think of it as THE LINE. Think where you were: it was THE WINE speaking.

(With friends like these - who needs enemies?! )

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monkeysmama · 12/04/2010 23:09

PC am loving your poetry.

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PrettyCandles · 12/04/2010 23:12

[snort] I didn't notice

FWIW, I'm thinking of getting Botox this summer to inhibit perspiration on my forehead, but dread the thought of an immobile crease-free forehead!

BitOfFun · 12/04/2010 23:12

Botox doesn't do anything for under-eye wrinkles- it's mainly for foreheads or crow's feet. How could she still see anything after that much wine?

SuziKettles · 12/04/2010 23:14

I need botox. But quite frankly I've got about 1000 things before it in the queue of things-I-would-spend-my-money-on.

So I'm going to get a fringe instead.

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monkeysmama · 12/04/2010 23:15

Apparently she could see better after the third bottle. Well, her criticism increased. When we got back to mine and my dp heard it he was astonished. I can now see what she means though. I have a line above one eyebrow when I laugh, frown etc. But, who cares really?

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BitOfFun · 12/04/2010 23:18

Nobody, honestly. Apart from slightly insecure and overly-competitive friends.

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monkeysmama · 12/04/2010 23:21

BoF I know you're right. But it does feel a bit funny when a good friend says it!

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MegSophandEmma · 12/04/2010 23:24

A fringe will sort it and apparently makes one look younger in the process. That could be due to hiding "The Line" though

Don't put poison in your head. Don't do it!!

MegSophandEmma · 12/04/2010 23:25

Can you imagine looking like for the rest of your days?

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monkeysmama · 12/04/2010 23:26

No way I'm botoxing. I am not that vain really. I like clothes but injecting stuff isn't my thing!

I had a fringe at 8mo pg. I looked 14 so maybe it kind of worked.

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TragicallyHip · 12/04/2010 23:27

how rude!
And double at 60 a day!

eshermummy · 12/04/2010 23:32

MM - my sister came over from US last week for a visit. She has been out there for a year working and already has been sucked into the whole cosmetic improvements thang

I noticed immediately that she had had botox as her forehead was just weirdly smooth , like a boiled egg
TBH I had never noticed any lines she had there before, I think she was surprised and a bit annoyed that I spotted the "work".
I am very anti botox, fillers , cosmetic surgery in general (won't bore you with why) so I must admit to having been a little bit rude to her about it .
She is younger than me (34), single and childless. If she thinks she needs it now, how will she feel at 40? 45?

ZacharyQuack · 12/04/2010 23:34

Did you mention her need for lipo?

crumpette · 13/04/2010 11:04

How ridiculous! Just ignore your 'friend'. Botox is a poison and its long term effects are not yet known- it can also cross the blood-brain barrier- just tell her you have more important things to spend your time and money on than botox. You know, children and maybe holidays or other things. And even if you were fully aware of any potential risk you are far too young in my opinion. Silly silly friend with empty life if that's all she could talk about when drunk. Happy people don't spend all day staring into mirrors looking for flaws and never notice minor fine lines on other people!

traceybath · 13/04/2010 15:14

Lordy MM - with friends like that . . .

Seriously I would possibly consider a little botox in a few years but think it incredibly rude to say what she said.

In my world - friends compliment each other and after a few bottles of wine - normally tell each other how much you love each other

She is mad and you are gorgeous.

said · 13/04/2010 15:21

Think you'd (one would) look more like than with botox.

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monkeysmama · 13/04/2010 15:38

It was really quite unpleasant. We'd only gone out because she is getting divorced and needed to talk. Wish I'd not gone to the effort of buying her flowers & dropping everything else to be there.

I'd never even considered it! May have to invest in a new face cream and lose her as a friend.

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traceybath · 13/04/2010 15:40

She was possibly feeling a bit envious of you and wanted to bring you down a bit. Horrid but some people are a bit like that.

DorotheaPlenticlew · 13/04/2010 15:51

I am certain that this was her insecurity manifesting itself in a not particularly nice way. Ignore.

And fwiw, I genuinely think Botox makes most people look much worse. And I am a person who wears makeup every day, is always reapplying lipstick etc, weakens for fancy skin products and whatnot; so not speaking from an extreme "natural" position or anything.

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monkeysmama · 13/04/2010 15:58

I think you're probably right Tracey & I don't want mates like that really. Anyway, I notice the line every time I walk past a mirror now but it's nothing really. Just have to make sure I smile more and frown less .

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monkeysmama · 13/04/2010 15:58

Thanks DP.

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MissWooWoo · 13/04/2010 16:55

oh dear! she is obviously in a very bad place at the moment but that's no excuse. Hopefully she feels thoroughly ashamed of herself. If she's a very good friend I'd let it go this time but of course if she keeps it up you'll have to tell her she's being rude and insensitive - you're a shoulder to cry on not a punchbag