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AA Gill has writtena really charming piece about British Womens appearence

155 replies

CybilLiberty · 03/10/2009 07:52

When I fly back to England, I know that I will notice two things: the old place will look surprisingly and miraculously green, and the girls will look like recycling bin bags full of windfalls, with a relentless, stroppy, obstinate and defiant plainness.

When everything is wet and cold, English girls glower beneath their frizzy split ends, with their baggy pink eyes, defensively regarding the world over broken veins and puce, dripping noses, pursing their thin lips over badly shuffled teeth.

The summer is when those bodies, long held in supine, chip-rich darkness of shapeless unisex comfort clobber, are set free like blind, hairless, albino moles; the grey adipose flesh slops over waistbands and shoulder straps; bunioned and varicosed feet shimmy in shower slippers; arses are sliced by cheese-wire thongs; wobbling, pocked thighs flap and chafe like drunken mates.

But nothing could be worse than English girls when they make an effort, dressed up for a night out: it?s then that they reach the heights of precipitous frightfulness. The clacking cankles. The tortured hair. The evil clown?s make-up. Predatory breasts, like pink water bombs. Flapping arms and glistening chins, and second-division mouths. The farmyard aggression and the zoo sex.

It?s not just a class thing; it?s not only chavvy ladettes in the provinces. Look at the state of the totty tumbling out of Boujis, or waving chipped-nailed fingers at Glastonbury.

Go to any £1,000-a-head charity ball and see the English memsahib, 3st above her fighting weight, swagged in a gypsy?s shower curtain, with a barnet that might have been spun in a sugary centrifuge. The granny jewellery and the blue eye shadow, the unhumpable hell of them all.
.... and so it goes on.

He does later say beauty is not the be all and end all...but did he have to be quite SOO full of vitriol?

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OrmIrian · 03/10/2009 17:28

I've worked out why it is so horrible. It's not self-deprecating. He writes as an outsider - coming in from elsewhere, and he isn't a woman. So what he said isn't like one of us taking the piss out of ourselves but someone else coming in and doing it. Maybe.

pofacedandproud · 03/10/2009 17:31

but it the whole piece he is also self deprecating. He knows he is a lech. He knows he is fancying women purely because they are French, regardless of what they look like.

OrmIrian · 03/10/2009 17:41

He might be deprecating about himself, but he can't be self-deprecating on behalf of a group of other people for whom he appears to have so little affection.

nooka · 03/10/2009 17:50

Yuk. How lovely does he look then? Of course there are some women that look as he has described, although generally speaking I doubt that women in winter "unisex comfort clobber" then wear cheesewire thongs in the summer.

Actually I find myself quite offended at the use of the word "girls" in this context. Comes across as very misogynist, although I suspect this is also to do with bigging up wherever lives now.

Of course some women who live in England dress very badly at times. But as London is also one of the fashion capitals of the world it seems a little unlikely that they/we all dress terribly all the time. I for example have never worn a cheesewire thong, either in the summer or the winter. Perhaps that's because I am neither a "chavvy ladette from the provinces" or "totty", or even a "memsahib" WTF?. What very peculiar circles AAGill must travel in. However as I think he is morally, spiritually and physically "unhumpable" perhaps that is irrelevant - is this really the only view point to see half the world?

fishflange · 03/10/2009 17:51

He reads like a Sixth Former with a new Roget's and a Brideshead-style crush on Betjeman...

Come friendly bombs fall on Gill
He has several inches of copy to fill
He's going for metaphor overkill
Swarm over us, adjectives!

nooka · 03/10/2009 17:51

Lol flange (although really that is quite the most disgusting name!)

TheUtterlyUnhumpableAAGill · 03/10/2009 17:55
fishflange · 03/10/2009 18:13

I am but a repugnant English woman with broken veins and corned beef legs.

Reading his piece again I am starting to think that actually he was getting off while he wrote it. He is revelling in it. You can imagine him rolling the words round his mealy, moist mouth.

Blurg

SixtyFootDoll · 03/10/2009 18:13

I found it quite funny
And I give you all a large pinch of salt wiht which to read it again.
Surely we can all picture women exactly like he is describing and dont tell me you havent looked down your nooses at them?!

pofacedandproud · 03/10/2009 18:32

Any town on a Saturday night?

Quattrocento · 03/10/2009 18:41

I wonder if AAGill has not been humped enough in his younger and fitter days? So he's taken to deriding englishwomen as unhumpable as a defence mechanism?

smallwhitecat · 03/10/2009 18:45

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pofacedandproud · 03/10/2009 18:49

I am guilty of feeling the same about English men I'm afraid. Same bloke with a Russian accent instantly becomes appealing. Russian men on the whole are far, far better looking though.

pofacedandproud · 03/10/2009 18:50

Not French men though. Why are French women so good looking and French men not?

pofacedandproud · 03/10/2009 18:51

AA Gill is typically English looking isn't he? I couldn't fancy him even with an accent.

Kathyis12feethighandbites · 03/10/2009 18:52

At his best A.A. Gill is very funny. This is not his best.

glasjam · 03/10/2009 19:05

Wow am amazed that there are so many AA Gill apologists on here. Imagine for one minute the reaction if that piece was by Amanda Platell. I can imagine that it would receive a hugely different response.

Kathyis12feethighandbites · 03/10/2009 19:07

But Amanda Platell never writes particularly well, does she? I think you can like Gill when he is funny without thinking this piece is any good.

Slubberdegullion · 03/10/2009 19:15

Agree with Kathy. When he is good he is very very good etc.

His rant about the x-factor a few weeks back was perfect and made me want to kiss him on his mealy, moist mouth

This is not him at his best at all.

Ingles2 · 03/10/2009 19:24

Got to confess I like AA Gill usually... the restaurant review is the first thing I read in Style.. I don't mind this piece either..
As for being as old as someone's dad... I soooo would.
He's a dirty bstrd... Anyone read Sap Rising?

Greatfun · 03/10/2009 19:58

Sounds like another misogynistic bull piece of writing by a journalist whose imagination and ability could not stretch itself beyond scraping the bottom of the deepest barell.

Yawn.

Greatfun · 03/10/2009 20:02

Just found this photo of him.

I really don't think he is in a position to be judging anyone on their looks and fashion choice.

I am off to get my extra large boob tube and hot pants out. That'll be after I plaster my make up on.

BloodshotEyeballs · 03/10/2009 20:34

Yes, we can all picture women like that, fine. But not everyone. For him to smugly write off a whole nation of women with such nastiness makes him an arsehole.

ABetaDad · 03/10/2009 21:45

I usually quite like AA Gill but to be honest we do all know people who are badly dressed, who wear clothes too small/big for them, wrong colour, wrong hair, etc. We are those people and we are both sexes.

I have to admit, I do really like very well dressed women. Some women I have seen in the street recently look really nice, ordinary women who are just dressed well and often not very expensively. Others look as he describes.

A lot of blokes are equally very badly dressed in this country in my view. Some are well dressed but a similar article could be writen by another journalist about men.

glasjam · 03/10/2009 21:50

Yeah I know Amanda Platell doesn't come up to the standard of AA Gill but you know what I'm getting at? It's as if a lot of people are indulging him in the same way that they indulge someone like Piers Morgan. They're cruelly witty, pretty dapper in that public school boy charming way (yes and I know Piers is not the real McCoy on that front). Maybe I should have said what if this had been written by Rod Liddell?