Is there a sane woman alive who really believes that all the scrubs, balms, oil, wraps and unguent pushed so relelentlessly in women's magazines will make any bleeding difference whatsoever??

[moondog]

Just flicking through my latest copy of Red (yes, it's shit and I've just cancelled my subscription-Geri Halliwell bleating about Botox heralds a nadir).

Who in the name of God is going to spend £30 on a scrub??????

Fucking hell.

it's all in the mind...they make you feel good...so i guess they do help.

Spending £30 on oil and water and a scent wouldn't make me feel good.
Oh no sirree.

Me.

I am a total sucker for it.

It has lessened since I stopped buying women's magazines.

Now I buy Men's Health and just use a bit of Brut for Men and Brylcreem.

oh i agree some products are totally over priced, i must spend about £60 a month on them though

Not me, I don't use anything other than water.

I also think that moondog

loads of bollocksy bollocks

Nope. The only claims I'm ever convinced by is if it says a bubble bath gives lots of bubbles.. I would very much like to believe in that new L'Oreal lip collagen cream thing that's being advertised though.

costly bollocksy bollocks at that

i don't think it's all bollocksy bollocks...oil of olay total effects is really quite good.

Mumsnet is so much more reliable for beauty products and hints than glossy magazines. I do think the right product for the right skin can make a difference, but I don't think effectiveness is proportional to the price of the product or the amount spent on advertising.

No. I am completely over beauty products and feel no need whatsoever to buy them. They are just a lot of pretty packaging and bluff.

I also look at my mum, who has washed her face in water and slapped on a bit of Pond's since day dot and has fabulous skin. Tis down to the fact that she is healthy, drinks water, gets fresh air, doesn't bake in the sun and has good genes.

Creme de la Mer my arse.

no, not a fan of the ££££ beauty products.

My damage has been well and truly done. Too late now. And I am going to sidestep the issue of wrinkle-filling/ plumping etc by cutting a fringe.

I use a moisturiser occasionally, when my skin feels dry. But that's it. I'm under no illusion that I'll suddenly look 20 years younger. That's a load of bollocks.

I'm completely with you on not understanding why someone would spend £30 on a scrub.

I did have to cringe when I saw an extremely wrinkly lady in her 70's/80's buying anti wrinkle cream - in fact that was the moment I vowed to buy less products, not more. Of course all these things feel nice on your skin and smell nice, no worries with the lady spending her money how she likes...but sometimes ageing is just gonna happen whether you like it or not.

Oil cleansing newbie here! And I haven't bought a mag since I joined mumsnet

Well....

My mum is 64, and has always been a fan of beauty products. She has beautiful skin, soft, plump with a few but not many wrinkles.

My MIL, who is the same age, has never moisturised, or crucially I think, used sunscreen on her face, has really deep wrinkles, furrows in fact. Her skin looks tough, dry and uncomfortable.

All down to genes - I don't think so.

It's all bollocks. The magazines get most of their income from advertising so of course they're going to rave about the products. I'm sure one of the glossies had an editor years ago who slagged off Armani or something so they pulled all their advertising from the publishing house and it was a major deal at the time.

Definitely best getting recommendations from friends and MN imo. Some things do work to some extent but depends on what you're looking for, fair enough a cream might help dry skin but it won't make you look younger.

Have to admit that I have tried cream de la mer and it made my skin feel amazing and look a bit better but not £150 better iyswim

Oh and £30 is ridiculous for a scrub - you wash it off fgs! Get a loofah.

The reason that woman in the L'Oreal lip collagen thing has no wrinkles around her mouth is because her face is fixed in one, somewhat gormless, position...
You watch - her face doesn't move.

Wasn't there a Horizon prog or somesuch which basically said that a v. basic moisturiser plus high SPF factor did exactly the same as very expensive stuff, and was all you needed. And that would also explain any non-genetic diffs between macherie's mother and MIL, without any additional products.

Sometimes it's nice to have something that smells very lovely, but that's it, really - just nice.

I'm sure you're right, Katisha! Continues to resist it.

Coming back to this slightly late... I thought the only one which had been proven by real scientists to have any effect on wrinkles was the No 7 Protect and Survive thingy?

That lip collagen thing doesn't work, I got a sample of it in Grazia magazine (given to me by a friend may i add I didn't buy the shit) it made my lips drier and more peely on second application.

Depending on what you do and what your skin type is, sometimes using some sort of moisturizing product will just make your skin feel more comfortable. And you might as well buy one that smells nice - though you can get ones that smell nice for under a fiver.
And if you wear mascara or eyeliner its impossible to take it off with just soap &water