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Box dye grey cover bronze nightmare

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carrottopper · 30/06/2025 23:34

Help! Are there any hair dressers who could give me advice please?? I haven’t the money to be going to the hair dressers for colour. I have light brown hair which is becoming more and more grey. I’ve been using L’Oréal excellence for a few years. I was using 6 but switched to 7 about a year ago. It’s supposed to be dark blonde but it comes out more bronze/orange. There is a real warmth there that I’d love to tone down.

any suggestions please? The first photo is after dying yesterday and the second photo is the colour it washes up to

Box dye grey cover bronze nightmare
Box dye grey cover bronze nightmare
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Ellepff · 01/07/2025 03:37

If you don’t get any answers, sally beauty US has a free service where you text pictures and they give you recommendations. I was worried they wouldn’t help me since I’m in Canada but they still sent me a product list and all the directions. It was really great.

zerored · 01/07/2025 07:28

Which is the actual colour you're using? Have you tried using a cooler ash tone? If you're putting blonde on brunette that could also cause warm tones (I'm not a hairdresser just made many mistakes with box dye!), could you go back to a cool brunette? You can also use purple shampoo to get rid of warm tones but I don't find it hugely effective sadly.

carrottopper · 01/07/2025 08:00

I’m using dark blonde. I want a slightly cooler version of it but don’t know how to do that. It’s no 7. Will an ashy blonde work on my hair? I didn’t think box dyes could lighten hair

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Laiste · 01/07/2025 08:21

Can you show a pic of the colour you're trying to achieve?

Have a read up on what the dye colour numbers mean AFTER the first number. Sometimes there's a letter like A for ash or N for neutral V for violet R for red ect. Sometimes they use a decimal point. .4 = copper. So 7.4 would mean level 7 dark blonde with a copper tone.

Laiste · 01/07/2025 08:25

Anything with a developer to mix in ( the white stuff in the bottle with a nozzle) is opening up your hair and letting colour in. A simple toner without a developer will just lay colour on to of each hair (which is why it washes out after x washes).

I find that with the mid sort of colours like dark blonde and light brown box dye colour can lighten slightly. Even though there's no actual bleach r to mix in there.

Outofthemoonlight · 01/07/2025 08:28

I’m in a similar quandary…. My hair is now completely white and the very expensive blond plus caramel highlights colouring at the salon just doesn’t last very long.

I've bought L’Oreal Excellence number 9, natural light blond because number 8 looked too dark and a but uninspiring. However, I fear it may perhaps be too light. Any suggestions of what I could mix in to tone it down a bit?

Sunnyafternooning · 01/07/2025 09:24

Not an hairdresser OP, but veteran of many a box dye mistake! 😂 I now order salon products online and do my hair myself… and mostly it comes out as i planned!

Exactly what this PP said. If you’re using something like a 7.3 it’s a level 7 so dark blonde but the .3 is golden tones, so will end up looking warm.

You might want to try something with .1 which is ash toned… but be aware that golden tones reflect the light, whereas the ash doesn’t in the same way and therefore looks darker to the eye. So a 7.1 would look darker than a 7.3 even tho the level is the same. If you want super ashy and for your hair to still look light, you’d probably have to bump up the level. There is a risk of completely ashy hair looking a bit flat, so some ranges have two decimal points eg 7.13 to try and mitigate that.

If you’re using permanent colour box dye the developer is likely to be higher (but you might have to look at the box and it might tell you the volume but not always). If the developer is higher, eg 20% it’ll lift the base colour/lighten it. But it can only do so much, so usually a permanent box dye can lift your level by 1-2 levels at a push… but it’s easier if the tone you want is warm because the underlying pigments in your hair as you lift are warm- yellow in v blonde hair and orangey in darker blonde/brown. So as an example about ten years ago I used to use an 8.34 box dye and it came out really well on my natural level 6/7 hair because the underlying tone was warm- think strawberry blonde. If I was aiming for an 8.1 I don’t think it would have been successful because of the warmth in my natural hair- it would have looked awfully brassy.

The Demi permanent colours have a lower volume, so won’t lighten as much… but personally I’ve found they can lift 0.5-1 level and then as it washes out it leaves a warm/orangey hue as the colour goes, leaving behind the underlying lifted pigment. Eg when I toned my highlights with loreal dia riche (slightly longer lasting Demi) overtime and repeated applications, it lifted my base colour and so when the tone had washed away my hair was slightly lighter/brassy hue. I knew it was a risk because it had a stronger developer/ I was trying to balance out strong enough to cover greys vs not ending up too brassy over repeated applications vs not having to redo it every 5 min!

I’ve now moved to shades eq as that has no lift, and therefore you don’t end up with the brassiness a few weeks later… but that means you cannot lighten the level at all, and it doesn’t last v long, 6w max. The NB range is good at covering grey. It does have a developer but it’s super weak so no lift.

Purple shampoo is to knock out yellow tones- they’re opposite on the colour wheel. To cancel out orange you need blue shampoo. I haven’t used any myself so can’t personally recommend any I’m afraid.

whoopeedoop · 01/07/2025 09:29

For what it’s worth I actually like the colour you’ve achieved with the different tones it looks quite natural but if you don’t like it I’d suggest an ash based colour. I always go one shade darker in the summer as the sun bleaches it out and makes it lighter.

Laiste · 01/07/2025 16:16

Just checking back in - as pp said 'ash' can be a tricky one as once it's in it's hard to rectify if you've gone too far with it.

Ash can go geeenish and ash can be flat and wander into dishwater grey.

Theres only so much you can do with any confidence as a home dyer. Sadly the best way to learn is to make mistakes ... and i've made them all over the years 🤣 I know my limits. These days i'm pale blonde and in the eternal fight against brass !

carrottopper · 08/08/2025 06:59

Thanks for your replies everyone. I’m still struggling with this. After a week in the sun, it is very ginger.
I’ve been on the L’Oréal hair colour site and it’s recommending 8.1 ash blonde.
I’ve currently got 7 dark blonde on mine.
@Laisteim not really sure what colour I want to go for but just want it more reflective and less ginger. Any suggestions welcome please?

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OvernightBloats · 08/08/2025 07:13

I am no expert but I would try slightly darker.

Ridingthegravytrain · 08/08/2025 07:52

I use jerome Russell toner in platinum or silver. Leave them on and blast with hairdryer. Can pick them up from pharmacy or supermarket. Tones out all the red as mine picks up a lot even with an ash colour

Usernameisunavailable · 08/08/2025 09:07

I’m watching with interest as I have the same issue. I’ve found that using medicated or anti dandruff shampoo lifts the colour quicker and removes some of the bronze/red colour faster than ordinary shampoos. It just gets to a nice colour when the roots have grown sufficiently to need doing again! I’ve also tried purple conditioners which work a bit, but tended to slightly darken my hair overall. Hoping someone suggests a product which adds a nice blonde colour without being too orangey/dark.

carrottopper · 08/08/2025 11:11

@Ridingthegravytrainthis sounds like a good idea but scary! Does it just tone it down? Does it last?

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Ridingthegravytrain · 08/08/2025 12:29

It just tones it down. Looks scary and blue at the time but when you rinse it out it looks normal just less brassy. Well that’s my experience I used it when I used to go platinum at home too

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