Suncream causing spots on face

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I seem to have to choose between sunburn or spots!
Can anyone recommend a particular suncream which is less likely to make me spotty?

Ultrasun

I use Ultra Violette future fluid - honestly can’t speak highly enough of it! It’s zinc based and therefore much less likely to cause irritation/break you out than a chemical formula. Discovered it whilst on holiday in Australia and it has honestly been such a game changer for me. I have pale, freckly skin and didn’t burn whatsoever.

It’s the only sunblock I’ve ever found that is actually enjoyable to wear (very hydrating and slightly tinted so leaves you with a lovely glow!) and doesn’t break me out. Pricey but worth it

Before that I’d tried years of La Roche Posay, Ren, Piz Buin etc all to no avail on my face. LRP seems highly recommended on this thread but I found that it always broke me out

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they do a preloaded brush of Hawaiian tropic for hair partings

Oh god I use ultraviolette all the time.

This is the same thing I’m thinking of. It is a preloaded brush, that you just shake a little rather than twist, or pull.
From reviews and evidence on displays of this product, people try to unscrew the base and all the powder falls out.

I had a horrible infection on my face couple of years ago and sun made it worse. I found piz buin factor 50 was the only one which didn't sting.

I agree with the Eucerin orange and white one. It's nice and drying so I find it an ideal base for me in sun (oily skin and often have spots).

Dermalogica protection 50 sport spf50
Absolutely brilliant stuff

I love the COSRX ultra light invisible spf50, it’s amazing https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0CYS776TR?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

however the thing that helped me most was starting to double cleanse any time I wear sunscreen.. so I wash first with a balm and wash cloth then finish with a facewash. It’s really made a massive difference..

Further independent tests found an SPF rating of 4 to be scientifically impossible due to the level of zinc in UV products. It’s nothing more than a scaremongering headline caused by incorrect handling of the product

I wore Ultraviolette on my pale, Irish skin for the entire duration of my trip to Australia. Didn’t burn whatsoever - pretty solid science in my eyes..! @tinytorch

It’s nothing more than a scaremongering headline caused by incorrect handling of the product

It's not a headline. I don't think there has been time for "further independent tests" since this report became available. Choice is pretty reputable. Of course Ultra Violette are going to be upset and counter the report.

From the previous link:

"The most significant failure of the 20 products we tested was Ultra Violette Lean Screen SPF 50+ Mattifying Zinc Skinscreen, which returned an SPF of 4.

Despite doing rigorous testing of this sunscreen the first time, we were so perturbed by the results that we decided to delay publishing and test a different batch of the Ultra Violette sunscreen at a completely different lab in Germany to confirm the results.

Those results came back with a reported SPF of 5, almost identical to our initial test."

So after reading that worrying article about UV (in fairness not the specific product I use) I emailed them and got this reply same day….

Thank you so much for taking the time to reach out to us.

We absolutely understand your concern, and would love to provide you with some further information to give you peace of mind.

To clarify, once we were made aware of both Choice’s claims/tests, we immediately retested the batch in question in a third-party independent lab following the ISO 24444 method required by the TGA. We wanted to ensure that if Choice published their alleged claims, we had the test results to verify the standard of our products! Again Lean Screen returned a result of 61.7.

Whilst we understand that it's incredibly difficult to understand how both results can be so different, I'd love to provide you with some further insight into Choice's test.

Lean Screen was not identified in any supporting documentation from both Choice tests, therefore there is no guarantee that these test results are indeed reflective of this product. Due to the blind nature of this test, human error and the mix up of samples is a highly probable scenario. There is also the question as to whether the product was appropriately decanted and labelled correctly for this blind testing – as stated in the ARTG guidelines - and done so in a GMP (Good Manufacturing Practice) facility. Reproducibility of results is a key element to scientific truth. Two blind tests with a very small sample size are not substantial in comparison to the extensive rounds of testing with supporting documentation Ultra Violette have conducted in accordance with the TGA testing guidelines.

We have fully complied with TGA requirements for all our sunscreens - we couldn’t be on shelves if they hadn’t, Australia has the strictest regulations in the world! The reality is, Lean Screen contains a very high level of zinc - 22.75% - so almost a quarter of the formulation. It would almost be scientifically impossible for an SPF with zinc levels so high to score an SPF of 4.

We want you to feel confident in the products you’ve received and we stand by the SPF claims displayed on our packaging.

We understand that this had a massive impact on trust and that’s what’s most important to us. We will be doing everything in our power to earn that back.

Please rest assured that it is absolutely safe to use. I’d recommend watching our latest video, where Ava, our co-founder, provides a detailed explanation. She personally uses Lean Screen on herself and her little ones, and she’ll continue to do so with full confidence: https://www.instagram.com/p/DK06EInyXx3/?hl=en

If you have any other questions or need support with anything else, please don’t hesitate to reach out.

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Im not at all science-y but think I’m a little more reassured

Also echo what @shivermetimbers77has said regards cleansing properly, possibly double

Clinique, great for sunburn.

An update:

Princeton Consumer Research carried out tests for certification for at least eight sunscreens that fell short of their advertised SPF50 claims in a recent review by consumer group Choice. ...

Ultra Violette's Lean Screen SPF50+ Mineral Mattifying Zinc Skinscreen returned the worst result in the Choice testing, with an SPF of just four.

Ultra Violette rejected the Choice result and published two of its own tests conducted by PCR — one commissioned immediately after the Choice investigation, as well as its original testing. Both returned an SPF value above 60.

But industry experts have raised serious concerns about the reliability of PCR's testing for Ultra Violette.

Princeton Consumer Research lab tested all eight sunscreens that failed SPF claims - ABC News

And a further update:

Ultraviolette Lean Screen has now been pulled off shelves, after the company did their own testing. They have removed the product from sale.

Great. That’s what I’ve been using for weeks .

I had this so just use any old own brand supermarket/Boots/Superdrug facial sunscreen. Does the trick. Current one came from Mercadona in Spain.

I’ve been loving using La Roche Posay Anthelios — I ordered a sample size from Vinted to try, and I’m now a convert. It’s lightweight, and doesn’t cause a white smear or block my pores. I’m preferring it over Healios tinted sunscreen which left my skin flakey.

Can I say NOT Eucerin! I bought it as meant to help with hyper pigmentation. OK...but at the expense of constant spots!

I've gone back to Vichy capital soleil

Independent testing by a reputable lab showed it has an SPF of I think 4, not 50.

Lean Screen Refund Form

The Lean Screen situation is woeful but I will definitely still continue using my Ultra Violette Future Fluid - I don’t doubt the SPF rating for a minute, in fact I’ve considered laying off it a bit this summer as my skin is so pale due to daily use!

Another vote for this one.

I wouldn't trust anything from this company now, given they use a lab notorious for poor results to verify all their formula's SPF ratings (testing on only a handful of people), made all sorts of allegations against CHOICE and its further testing, and encouraged their followers to do the same, put out public statements making disputable claims (aka lies) about this product, and now have sheepishly admitted there actually is a problem with their SPF50 rating SPF4 by pulling the product from sale. Meanwhile, users in Australia and similar climates have been placed at undue risk of skin cancer all these years.