Ageing advice

[Hamseven]

Hi I need help!
I've never had anything done beauty wise. I barely remember to moisturise!
I'm 45 and have just over 4 stone. I am very unhappy with my face! My skin is pretty even and good tone but dry. I have light crows feet and marionette lines but also very deep frown lines - which is really like to get rid of. But generally my face just had light wrinkles all over when it moves.
I want to know what would have the biggest impact? And how to get rid of frown lines? I'm selling to have fillers.... It anything but want to know what will have the most impact.

It would be Botox for frown lines not filler which need topping up more frequently. One of the side effects of this is that it can push your forehead down leading to one or both droopy eyelids so if you have hooded eyes proceed with caution. If the dryness bothers you there are injectable skin boosters some with a bit of filler to give more structure and some without. There are a myriad of hylauronic acids and moisturisers that may help with dryness and consistency is key. Morning and evening along with exfoliating. The only thing really to remove lines is Botox or surgery

Thank you so much. That sounds expensive and risky. I do have hooded eyes.

Which direction are your frown lines?

Horizontal on forehead - yes your brows could look heavier with botox.

Vertical between eyebrows (i have thrse) botox should not affect the whole forehead muscle.

Also maybe use a retionoid which helps with fine lines. And maybe an led facemask (dermatologist recommended me the omnilux one)

It's all mostly a bit £££!

They are vertical. I've just bought some retinol so will give that a go. Do aesthetic places generally give free consultations or does that cost too?

You should get a free consultation. If you want Botox on your 11 lines again be mindful if they inject above the brow as this can cause droopy eyelids too although they don’t have to inject there but worth having the conversation

TBH the best you can do is live with it. Any treatment needs to be kept up and even if you can afford it now you may not in future.

Tretonin is probably the easiest as it doesn't go into body modification territory.

Botox can improve your crows feet and frown lines by up to 80%. Marionette lines are trickier - fillers may be necessary but try to avoid them if possible. Unless they're frustrating you. I think you'd feel a lot better with just botox. You can usually maintain it with 2 sessions a year for £200 each depending on where you live. Make certain to choose a clinic with credible reviews/press.

Certainly try tretinoin in tandem. It's the cream that comes closest to botox. Monderma, Skin&Me and Obagi do it as a night cream mix with other ingredients like niacinamide, vitamin C, azelaic acid and ectoin. Don't bother with the cost and hassle of lots of skincare products when you can get them all in one now. Be mindful about strength as it's very strong and you'll peel if you start too high. Try to wear a SPF30.

If you want to avoid the high cost and commitment of Botox or uncertainty of some aesthetic treatments, I would say focus on a custom formula that’s reasonably priced and effective as it will 100% target your specific issues (dryness and wrinkles I believe) which is so much better, also, than wasting your money trying ‘one size fits all’ over the counter products. I’m in my early 60s and use a blend of Tretinoin (activates cell turnover for smoother, brighter skin) and Niacinamide (calming, soothing, combats any redness) which I get monthly from a subscription to Monderma. If you cleanse, moisturise and use SPF in the morning (crucial with active ingredients like these) and then cleanse + follow with a pump or two of the Monderma + moisturiser a few mins later at night, you’ll find your skin perking up in a matter of weeks. You must be consistent though and the ingredients can take time to adjust to. This way of looking after your skin (plus lots of colourful foods, drinking more water, getting enough sleep…) is such a cost effective modern solution. Most people
want quick fixes, but this way you’ll get lasting results for a fraction of the price.

There seem to be some typos in your post but are you saying you have just lost 4 stone? If so, you should find your skin settles and you look less haggard over the next year or so. There's a very distinctive look we get if we lose a lot of weight quite quickly in mid life, but it does tend to soften and improve over time.

I found good make up made me feel better about how I looked after weight loss and now I'm a bit older I don't really care about ageing or wrinkles, I just focus on looking the best I can with what I've got.

Has anyone used Upcircircle under eye cream...I have had under eyebags for years and never found an effective product. Posted this as a new thread but I haven't had any responses!

4 stone?

You could avoid fillers at 45 and look just as good.

HRT through the NHS
Tretinoin from Monderma
Botox twice a year for £150 ish
Moisturiser twice daily with high concentration of hyaluronic acid

This alone will improve your complexion by a good 50%.

If you're still unhappy, consider fillers. I wouldn't rush into them unless you've made up your mind.