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Is this okay for tea at the Ritz and ROH?

458 replies

DieDreiHexen · 08/11/2024 21:13

We visit London quite often, but mostly supper in Marylebone, picnic in the park, the theatre, lunch by the river, an exhibition or Ronnie Scott's (or work!) Basically, nice stuff but nothing fancy, just wear jeans or a day dress. This outing is unusual for me...

We are celebrating DD's 16th birthday in January with a trip to Mikimoto for pearl earrings, tea at the Ritz and Onegin at the Royal Opera House. We are overnighting at the Ritz (already looking forward to breakfast!)

DD has an amazing Sister Jane dress.

Would this dress do for me? How do people dress for ROH? Is it better in black or cream? (I'm a Deep Autumn apparently) And what shoes might work? I was hoping I might get away with loafers as I hate heels.

Any ideas appreciated!

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Plexie · 09/11/2024 13:52

@HeFellOffaDivingBoardinGuernsey

The overall company is now Royal Ballet & Opera but apparently the building is still the Royal Opera House.

Shakatak · 09/11/2024 13:56

I’m loving what the OP’s daughter’s 17th will be like tho. Still think WTAF was I doing?

my mate went to a pottery cafe for her hen do. Still can’t fathom it

BadForBusiness · 09/11/2024 13:59

Shakatak · 09/11/2024 13:47

people don’t dress up for opera

like the dress tho

People who fancy the idea of dressing up, dress up to go to the opera. And that's great.

Just as you might go to the ROH in cargos and trainers if you've been sightseeing all day, or in a suit and tie if you've been in a formal office all day, then if you've come straight from birthday tea at the Ritz then you'll come glammed up.

Nobody cares either way, except that some women who like clothes will have their day brightened by seeing a family who've really dressed up for the occasion. Competitive underdressing to look cool is really depressing (and I say that as someone who only ever wears whatever I was wearing to work to go out in the evening).

excelledyourself · 09/11/2024 13:59

@Grammarnut

Why are you answering a question that wasn't even directed at you? How can you possibly know why that poster made that comment?

MargotEmin · 09/11/2024 14:02

Azertyuio123 · 09/11/2024 10:10

What is the purpose of this comment?

To let a loving mother know she's doing a great job

MyFavouritePlace · 09/11/2024 14:14

Not getting the point of all the negativity and nasty comments.
The birthday plans sound lovely (liked that you shared the details).
Love your DD dress. Like your dress in the cream, unfortunately wouldn't suit me as I have fat legs!
Enjoy and happy 16th to your DD🎂

HauntedBungalow · 09/11/2024 14:19

OP is literally living the dream 👌

HauntedBungalow · 09/11/2024 14:22

(Apart from mistakenly booking a ballet instead of an opera for her opera mad pearl swathed daughter.)

The three hexes, indeed.

Propcorn · 09/11/2024 15:08

Just looked at Mikimoto. Lovely stuff but omg at the prices!!

What a great day for your daughter. She will remember it forever. Everyone has different preferences. My girl had a Taylor Swift-themed 16th party at home with twenty friends and had a ball. Your child prefers this event. It’s all fine!

As others have have said, anything goes with the Opera house. People wear jeans and others are all dressed up. Some even wear opera gloves! I am somewhere in between.

Inastatus · 09/11/2024 15:33

Grammarnut · 09/11/2024 13:35

Because freedom to dine at the Ritz is a positive freedom as is going to the ROH. Most of us are more interested in women's rights and the five negative freedoms from want, ignorance, disease, idleness and squalor.
And why has OP detailed entire programme and said this is extra special (and detailed less special visits?) most of which is irrelevant to the suit she shows? Sounds like showing off. Most of us don't and it's considered appallingly bad manners in the UK.

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@Grammarnut - ooookkkkayyy. U alright hun? 😅 you do realise this is the Style and Beauty thread??

Klippityklopp · 09/11/2024 16:11

Everythingaches · 08/11/2024 21:16

Can’t really comment as went to Greggs for my daughters 16th.

But you still did

It's a lovely dress op, have a great time celebrating

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 09/11/2024 16:32

HauntedBungalow · 09/11/2024 14:22

(Apart from mistakenly booking a ballet instead of an opera for her opera mad pearl swathed daughter.)

The three hexes, indeed.

Why so nasty? You’re making yourself look pathetic.

MargotwithaT · 09/11/2024 16:51

For gods sake. The OP is doing something really nice with her kid and some of you can’t stand that. I’d rather look at the OP and her dd in their nice dresses than people who think they’re edgy because they dress down. Truth is you don’t look edgy, you just look shite.

Jacopo · 09/11/2024 17:00

Grammarnut · 09/11/2024 13:35

Because freedom to dine at the Ritz is a positive freedom as is going to the ROH. Most of us are more interested in women's rights and the five negative freedoms from want, ignorance, disease, idleness and squalor.
And why has OP detailed entire programme and said this is extra special (and detailed less special visits?) most of which is irrelevant to the suit she shows? Sounds like showing off. Most of us don't and it's considered appallingly bad manners in the UK.

Edited

Parties round yours must be a barrel of laughs, @Grammarnut.

palmtreessunshine · 09/11/2024 17:06

Please adopt me 🥰

Delatron · 09/11/2024 17:10

The dress is perfect and the celebrations sound wonderful.

You mentioned you are a warm autumn so you should definitely go for the cream as it’s a warm shade rather than the black. Black loafers are also a good choice.

pictoosh · 09/11/2024 17:12

BadForBusiness · 09/11/2024 10:41

That's very harsh on Theresa May who is a devotee of age appropriate high fashion. I'd be flattered to say that any outfit of mine looks like something she would wear.

Fair enough...I'm no fashionista.

SocksAndTheCity · 09/11/2024 17:26

AnnaMagnani · 09/11/2024 12:52

I think it's more nuanced than 'no-one dresses up'.

There are different fashion tribes all across London. There is a general trend towards practical coats and comfortable footwear due to most people using public transport.

Clothes may well be very expensive but might not look as obviously 'dressy' as if you are going out in Liverpool or Manchester.

I work most of the week in 'the North' but live somewhere v much in 'the South'. Day to day dress codes in both places are different - I've never ever had so many compliments on what I wear but I'm not stylish, I just stand out a bit as I'm doing oversized tailoring in a town that's more bodycon.

Mentioned at work I was going to the opera next week and the assumption was that this would be a big expensive fancy night out and they were shocked that it was costing a small fraction of what they had spent on Oasis tickets.

I agree too; I think the disconnect with London is the difference between dressing 'up' (so more formally, regardless of budget) and dressing well, which in my experience a lot of people do. The amount of effort is broadly the same even if the style of the clothes themselves is different.

Last time I went to the Ritz was for dinner and I wore a silk Louis Vuitton dress, which I would have happily worn to the ballet afterwards had I been going there. The last time I actually went I wore a black jumper and leggings and was far too warm; a dress would have been a lot more comfortable.

FeralNun · 09/11/2024 17:58

Both dresses are beautiful! We took DD to the Ritz for her 16th too (many years ago), and bought her a black pearl, funnily enough. She loved it all, just as she loved doing things with her mates.

I hope you all have a wonderful time, and ignore the more sneery replies on the thread!

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 09/11/2024 18:17

Questionary · 09/11/2024 13:37

I’d get dressed up for afternoon tea at the Ritz but then change to comfort for the ROH. It’s really low key, mainly jeans and day wear and I think you might feel a bit overdressed?

Eh? Have you been there recently?

I was there on a Thursday evening in early October to see Eugene Onegin and the next day to see Alice in Wonderland. People were definitely dressed up.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 09/11/2024 18:24

Nobody cares either way, except that some women who like clothes will have their day brightened by seeing a family who've really dressed up for the occasion.

I love clothes. I love looking round the bars and restaurants at the ROH to see what people are wearing. And people do dress up. Honestly, if you're not noticing that, it's because you're not interested.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 09/11/2024 18:31

Inastatus · 08/11/2024 21:19

@Everythingaches Why did you then?

To feel clever and somehow superior, I'm guessing. Awkward fail, really.

Laurmolonlabe · 09/11/2024 18:47

Perfect- enjoy.

LittleBearPad · 09/11/2024 18:50

Grammarnut · 09/11/2024 13:35

Because freedom to dine at the Ritz is a positive freedom as is going to the ROH. Most of us are more interested in women's rights and the five negative freedoms from want, ignorance, disease, idleness and squalor.
And why has OP detailed entire programme and said this is extra special (and detailed less special visits?) most of which is irrelevant to the suit she shows? Sounds like showing off. Most of us don't and it's considered appallingly bad manners in the UK.

Edited

Presumably you only wear hairshirts. Do you really have time to post on style & beauty?

MorrisZapp · 09/11/2024 18:55

I have a beloved 14 year old son but this thread is making me wish I had a daughter ❤️