Lyma for skin tightening.

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I’ve been doing a deep dive into beauty treatments for skin tightening as I’ve lost a ton of weight and could do with a boost.
Apparently laser skin surfacing is amazing and beneficial for your skin (good evidence base) and so looking into this.
In my research I’ve come across the Lyma (at home treatment) which costs ££ but would be worth it if it is effective.
Does anyone use it? Have you noticed any improvement?

I’m also using tret and considering micro needling. Profihilo doesn’t seem worth it from what I’ve read.

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Have heard some people I rate saying that the Lyma isn't great. Dr Shereen Idriss for example, waved it (or something that looked just like it) momentarily in front of the camera and said she wasn't going to talk about it. Maybe she has a vested interest in saying it doesn't work, I don't know. Only people I've seen promoting it have been celebs like Carey Mulligan who obviously get theirs for free.
Am having Halo laser on Wednesday myself...will let you know how it goes. I do think for lasers it's worth going in. I have an Omnilux LED mask...am a bit agnostic about it really. I also have the Current Body RF device which I do think is making a very, very subtle difference. But, if I were back again, I wouldn't buy either of these devices and would have put the money into a single laser treatment.
Having had a few injectible tweakments over the years the ones I rate are Botox and polynucleotides (the salmon sperm stuff). I used to have Botox in my forehead, between eyesbrows and crows feet but have given up the forehead. I got it once around my mouth and it was awful. I couldn't talk properly for around five weeks. I reacted really well to the polynucleotides but not everyone does. Have switched to that from Profilo and don't think I'll go back.
I'm 49. Skin is good for my age (spf obsession since mid-20's) but have inherited jowls from my father's side of the family. Apparently the only thing that'll sort them is surgery. This would be a significant stretch financially but I am so mentally corrupted by the anti-ageing industry that I bet I'll end up doing it.
Tret I've yet to try as I don't like the idea of the sun-sensitivity. I quite liked Profhio and got it a good few times but then I have the kind of very pale, delicate skin that apparently reacts well. I think it's better to get as a kind of preventative and I've given it up as well because I think it can actually build up eventually. Better investment than Lyma though, I would imagine.

I had polynucleotide injections but the injection blebs afterwards were horrible and lasted 5 days. I looked like an alien, and they’re impossible to hide. The clinic said that was normal!
I don’t know how anyone could go out until they subsided, yet the blurb said minimal downtime. I’ve heard the Lyme is overhyped. The only gadget I would consider is the dermalux LED arc which is more powerful than the face mask, more like those used in the salon. It is expensive, but would be used a lot.
A lot of non surgical procedures are overhyped imo. You usually have to commit to lot of sessions, they’re expensive and often there’s no discernible difference. I once asked why a particular treatment had been discontinued, the practitioner said it was because it had been found to be not very effective, yet at the time of introduction it was really hyped up, and they took the money quickly enough! Perhaps they shouldn’t be unleashed on the public until they have been proven, but these clinics get around that by saying everyone is different as to how much difference these treatments make! I feel if you have spent hundreds of pounds and there is no difference, they should give a refund or a hefty discount on another treatment.

Thanks for this!
I couldn’t find a bad review for the Lyma so was almost sold! 😂
I listen to the Huberman podcast and he had a top dermatology expert on who really rated lasers for skin health and anti aging. So I’m currently researching them. He also rated tretanion for the same reasons.
I would appreciate some feedback on the outcome of your laser treatment. Thank you.
My skin is really good too. Genes I expect as I’m mixed race and my family have aged well. It’s scary when you notice new sagging though!

Oh god, hopefully the bumps will subside soon!
I haven’t looked at LED face masks yet so will give them a try.
I agree with you about treatments being over hyped and don’t want to make an expensive mistake!
Profhilio looked amazing until I did a little digging!

Unfortunately OP I'm very sceptical about most of these hyped up things. By all means spend your money, but I would say don't expect anything more than subtle, temporary results.

There's a lot that can be done for improving skin tone/ texture etc. I love skincare, have used tretinoin for a few years, and also have an LED mask - all great for giving a nice glow to the skin etc. But if you are talking skin tightening, you are really about laxity in the skin or sagging, there's not much that can be done bar surgery. I know that lasers can have a subtle effect, but often it doesn't last that long. And the recovery can be harsh.

The aim of most lasers/ RF/ CO2 etc. treatments is to give a controlled injury to the skin, thereby triggering your body's healing response - which includes a temporary increase in collagen production. But again, that mostly has an effect on your skin, rather than the underlying facia and tissue and fat pads - which are what really causes sagging and jowls.

I previously had Ultherapy which made all sorts of claims about getting into the deeper layers of tissue, and tightening etc. but really I saw very little results for a lot of money spent. Basically, if you only have a very small amount of skin laxity, then you might see an improvement but don't expect miracles.

Another thing that’s concerning is that these treat like ultherapy, can , in inexperienced hands led to permanent damage . Eg melting fat on your face . When you are older that’s the last thing you want.
I’ll used my LED mask moisturiser, spf and tret - then, when I can’t stand the sight of myself, I’ll be having a conversation with a surgeon!

Thanks. You’re probably right.
I don’t want to go down the surgery route really and may have to accept my aging face. It’s better than the alternative!

I had a lyma a few years ago and used it religiously for 6 months and saw zero difference. I sold it for nearly what I’d paid on eBay though so it wasn’t so bad. I agree with what others have said, not sure these expensive but subtle treatments are worth it. I am also 49, and I suspect the thing to do is a mini facelift if I really want to fix my skin laxity, but I don’t think I could do it to myself for the sake of less wrinkles. Botox does work but needs to be subtle to not look odd as you get older I think. I don’t do fillers, have done both profhilo and polynucleotides and think I look more glowy with both but not for long. What I probably need to do is come to terms with ageing and embrace my wrinkles!

Thanks for this. I think your post is the nail
in the coffin for the Lyma!
I’m going to look at skin lasers because I’ve researched them fully and believe they are actually good for your skin. I’ll maybe use some Botox for forehead lines and continue with good skincare (tret, vitamin c and Azeliac acid)
I’m 48 and I think a level of acceptance is needed and I need to embrace the aging process too!

From what I've read previously on Mumsnet I think lyma laxer is a con. Better spending the same money at a proper aesthetician with stuff like fraxel lazer or similar

It's not the wrinkles that really bother me - I don't have many because I'm only 40 and use good skincare, and have worn SPF for years - it's the prospect of jowls (which run in my family) and a heavier jawline. Basically my face changing shape to a much more square masculine shape. I can already see the beginnings of it, and no cream or laser is going to really fix that.

I sort of know what's coming down the line, any honestly I will probably get surgery to deal with it in the next 5 - 10 years.

i Use the lyma laser and have seen such great results. I’d really recommend it as it doesn’t damage the skin - I really can’t bear pain and as my skin is very pigmented can’t risk discolouration from scarring. My saggy jowls have lifted! Lost the deep lines around my mouth too. Just saw there is a sale on with 30% off too