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This older lady on the train..

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KibbeMe · 21/09/2024 16:29

I loved what she wore, and she looked so comfortable!
I wouldn't call it a style, or remotely fashion conscious, but she was obviously interested in clothes, if that makes sense?

She was 65+ or thereabouts, medium height, slim, with bushy hair in a lovely twist. She was wearing a long tweed, flecked coat, with a sort of jersey tunic under it with a modest pattern. She wore dark wool tights with socks and clumpy brown boots, with a cotton tote and gorgeous mustard coloured wool scarf.

I remember thinking that I rarely saw older women in shorter skirts/tunics, and she looked fantastic. What struck me most was how at ease this all looked, so kind of interesting but comfy. It did not scream money, but wasn't cheap at all, it is hard to describe it, as it wasn't on trend for any age group, but reminded me a little of a dance tutor I had in my 20's who was vaguely bohemian in a neater, relaxed sort of way (not trendy or frilly).

If any of this makes sense, I would love some recommendations. It all looked great quality but not in popular styles. The tunic looked like basic jersey with a scoop neck, wasn't baggy or tight. Colours were mixed but not obvious.
This was in March this year and I still haven't forgotten her!

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Netcam · 26/09/2024 07:13

I've just been having a wardbrobe clear out and am getting rid of old White Stuff tunics bought around 2011-14. Some are very faded after a lot of wear, others I just haven't worn for years, so they're going. But some of the prints were nice, I used to like their designs. These days I think the quality and style are dreadful and I wouldn't buy anything from there.

rainfallpurevividcat · 26/09/2024 07:15

KibbeMe · 25/09/2024 01:03

You'd probably like the Ruth Rendell films from the 90's, I think from the 'mysteries' series, such as 'May and June', 'Master of the Moor', and 'Vanity Dies Hard'.
I can't locate any decent stills to illustrate this, but Alice in 'Vanity Dies Hard' definitely fits the sartorial mood of your 'coat' video..

So many wonderful clothes around on tv back then, similar to the slightly floaty academic look of early Morse episodes or Midsomer Murders.
Difficult to describe it, and not so easy to find nowadays, no matter how far up market you search. The quality just isn't there at most price points.

Helen Masters in Wycliffe had a pullover (tank? never know what to call them) on in one episode the other day that would be on trend now. Something like this. This is going to be my look this winter!

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rainfallpurevividcat · 26/09/2024 07:16

Photo here.

This older lady on the train..
Netcam · 26/09/2024 07:17

rainfallpurevividcat · 26/09/2024 07:06

Seasalt I find a bit stuck in 2015. I used to like Sugarhill too but they are just rolling out the same schtick every year now.

Most of the dresses from these places are viscose too, I hate viscose! And I agree, nothing inspiring in the prints or styles.

AubrieDog · 26/09/2024 07:33

rainfallpurevividcat · 26/09/2024 07:15

Helen Masters in Wycliffe had a pullover (tank? never know what to call them) on in one episode the other day that would be on trend now. Something like this. This is going to be my look this winter!

https://www.next.co.uk/style/SU360135/E36693

That's why I mentioned taking inspiration from Rowan Knitting magazines; they're full of fairisles like this.

thedevilinablackdress · 26/09/2024 08:10

rainfallpurevividcat · 26/09/2024 07:15

Helen Masters in Wycliffe had a pullover (tank? never know what to call them) on in one episode the other day that would be on trend now. Something like this. This is going to be my look this winter!

https://www.next.co.uk/style/SU360135/E36693

She had the best knitwear full stop. Just dreamy.
Watching the Inspector Lynley Mysteries just now, and though they're 'only' 20 years old (and my preference is usually older fashion wise) some of the characters do have pleasing costumes. Mainly Lynley's posh family.

rainfallpurevividcat · 26/09/2024 08:54

Bright sunshine today and quite warm. Even the thought of a jumper makes me feel hot. I've gone to work in satin blouse, black cotton trousers, pumps and leather jacket and was so hot when I'd walked 15 minutes to the station.

IAmNotYourZiggaZigAhhh · 26/09/2024 09:32

Oh no! I’ve just taken out a La Fetiche jumper to wear with a Margaret Howell skirt and big clumpy brown Grenson boots.

Can’t be bothered to iron anything else so will have to rely on the temperature going down.

cornflakecrunchie · 26/09/2024 10:37

@KibbeMe Very nice look!

AubrieDog · 26/09/2024 10:53

IAmNotYourZiggaZigAhhh · 26/09/2024 09:32

Oh no! I’ve just taken out a La Fetiche jumper to wear with a Margaret Howell skirt and big clumpy brown Grenson boots.

Can’t be bothered to iron anything else so will have to rely on the temperature going down.

That sounds like a gorgeous look!

TheSingingBean · 26/09/2024 11:35

I'm enjoying this thread.

I have a bit of a love-hate relationship with Seasalt. I have several plain linen / linen mix dresses and love them and I tend to look there before anywhere else these days (agree White Stuff and Fat Face have rather lost their way). But I really don't like their prints and I'm not keen on their waisted dresses. I generally opt for A line as it suits my shape.

I think you can dramatically alter the look by adding unusual jewellery or (most often for me) chunky shoes or boots.......what I call 'shoes with attitude.'

I'm early 60s and very few women of my age where I live dress like me (mainly tunics or dresses with thick tights and boots) and I occasionally feel a bit out of place when we all get together. But I have had compliments about my choices in the past and on the whole I feel happy with my look. I got someone to help me with my colours a few years ago - sort of confirmed what I already knew but helpful nonetheless - and she described my style as 'creative-arty' which is what I think the OP is describing, though I am certain no one would remember what I had worn months later or describe with such admiration, sadly!

BestIsWest · 26/09/2024 12:14

Seasalt have great fair isle stuff. I had a lovely cardi there last year.

KibbeMe · 26/09/2024 13:19

thedevilinablackdress · 26/09/2024 08:10

She had the best knitwear full stop. Just dreamy.
Watching the Inspector Lynley Mysteries just now, and though they're 'only' 20 years old (and my preference is usually older fashion wise) some of the characters do have pleasing costumes. Mainly Lynley's posh family.

Oh gosh I loved his mother,'s character Lady Lynley - played so beautifully by Nick Drake's sister, Gabrielle.

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AubrieDog · 26/09/2024 13:31

TheSingingBean · 26/09/2024 11:35

I'm enjoying this thread.

I have a bit of a love-hate relationship with Seasalt. I have several plain linen / linen mix dresses and love them and I tend to look there before anywhere else these days (agree White Stuff and Fat Face have rather lost their way). But I really don't like their prints and I'm not keen on their waisted dresses. I generally opt for A line as it suits my shape.

I think you can dramatically alter the look by adding unusual jewellery or (most often for me) chunky shoes or boots.......what I call 'shoes with attitude.'

I'm early 60s and very few women of my age where I live dress like me (mainly tunics or dresses with thick tights and boots) and I occasionally feel a bit out of place when we all get together. But I have had compliments about my choices in the past and on the whole I feel happy with my look. I got someone to help me with my colours a few years ago - sort of confirmed what I already knew but helpful nonetheless - and she described my style as 'creative-arty' which is what I think the OP is describing, though I am certain no one would remember what I had worn months later or describe with such admiration, sadly!

Likewise, I love the Seasalt A-line linen dresses but I wear the sleeveless one (Cresting Waves) as a pinafore over Seasalt Easel long sleeved t-shirt or a striped sailor top. They're really meant to be a sundress (ditto the Fat Face Lola A line linen dress) but I find that wearing as a pinafore over leggings and chunky lace up boots gets endless compliments! I look and feel dreadful in busy prints.

I'm 60 and I'm usually described as arty by those who know me. I seem to get compliments far more often now than I did when I was young so I presume I've grown into my style as I've aged.

KibbeMe · 26/09/2024 13:40

TheSingingBean · 26/09/2024 11:35

I'm enjoying this thread.

I have a bit of a love-hate relationship with Seasalt. I have several plain linen / linen mix dresses and love them and I tend to look there before anywhere else these days (agree White Stuff and Fat Face have rather lost their way). But I really don't like their prints and I'm not keen on their waisted dresses. I generally opt for A line as it suits my shape.

I think you can dramatically alter the look by adding unusual jewellery or (most often for me) chunky shoes or boots.......what I call 'shoes with attitude.'

I'm early 60s and very few women of my age where I live dress like me (mainly tunics or dresses with thick tights and boots) and I occasionally feel a bit out of place when we all get together. But I have had compliments about my choices in the past and on the whole I feel happy with my look. I got someone to help me with my colours a few years ago - sort of confirmed what I already knew but helpful nonetheless - and she described my style as 'creative-arty' which is what I think the OP is describing, though I am certain no one would remember what I had worn months later or describe with such admiration, sadly!

Seasalt does tend to pop up if anyone mentions tunics Grin

But there's far more to the look of my train lady than a single brand. She didn't look like a Seasalt shopper, exactly.
The tunic she wore functioned as a short dress, and it is a look I used to see often in the Lake District when someone wasn't hiking or out with their dogs. Natural fabrics, not very fashionable, prepared for the weather.

What I often see now with women my age and upwards is usually high street trends or sport/leisurewear. Women are enjoying clothes more than previously, although much of it appears to be led by influencers and celebs. So the lady on the train stood out to me, not because she looked unusual, but because she didn't conform to current cuts, or 'shapes'.
She wasn't trying to hide her bushy hair. If she popped onto mumsnet and took a photo of her hair as it is, she would have been given twenty ways to 'fix; it or have it re-styled. Many people might have told her it made her look old :(

To me, she had comfort in herself. And that stood out a mile. She didn't look stunning, wealthy, current or enviable. Nor did she look dated, old, untidy or down at heel. She looked lovely, at ease, and so interesting.

The look was more toned down than Cabbages and Roses, not quite as flouncy. Nothing was baggy but nothing was tight. The coat wasn't oversized. Her hair was natural and wavy but in good condition, with a touch of natural frizz. Her posture was fantastic and she seemed very active. She certainly didn't have the tv presenter look as nothing about her was childish. Just someone comfortable with their own choices and probably knew it worked well.

After a search I could see some of it from Follyology, scarf could be Plumo, tunic could be Mistral, boots could have been from Toast. They were also a touch muddy so probably didn't drive.
The look was slightly alternative but in a 'cottage full of books and a pet goat' kind of way as opposed to goth or rockabilly.

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TheSingingBean · 26/09/2024 13:52

You're very good at assessing a look / style KibbeMe, and you clearly have an eye for detail. Ever thought about being a personal stylist-shopper?!

Soonenough · 26/09/2024 22:50

Love " pet goat kind of way ". 😁

venus7 · 27/09/2024 18:07

KibbeMe · 25/09/2024 20:09

I have a long waterproof coat from Seasalt and it has stood me well, also a leaf print tunic that is excellent quality, compared to so much that I see on the market now. Maybe not the 'head to toe' look, though!
I don't like their tees or fashion related stuff (wide leg crops, etc) but their staples and organic jersey are pretty decent.

I seem to suit a tunic as a dress, with wool tights and clumpy boots. Not sure if I am 'gamine' but they never look frumpy on me, if that makes sense? I can easily chuck a big jumper over them and stick some wellies on and a flowing coat.

Seasalt would be great if they'd offer more solid prints. And like a PP said, I think this look, the lady on the train, entails putting different pieces together from different brands that work in harmony.

For me, the worst thing that happened to the market was the elasticated waist. Once aimed at older women, now even teens. They are often huge, chunky and shapeless and require either a longer top (which have all but vanished) or something that covers the unsightly bunching. This must have been popular since it won't go away, and it is becoming rare to locate anything with a flat waist or zipper. If a waistband has to be elastic, I can't see why they can't engineer a wide flat one, which would be comfortable, durable and sleek.

I love the Gabi cord trousers at Toast, but the waist band was impossible. I looked as if I was wearing curtain pelmet at the waist. Such a lovely pair of trews completely disgraced.

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Agree completely about elasticated waists....hideous!
I tried on a pair of Gabi trousers, couldn't work out why I looked so dreadful......then realised the waist. Bunching, unflattering, ill made, frumpy horrors. I like the reference to 'disgraced trousers'!

StoneTheCrone · 27/09/2024 18:32

Elasticated waists are the new shoulder cut-outs. They totally ruin a garment.

eggplant16 · 27/09/2024 18:49

Must be bloody marvelous to have a great figure, unlimited funds, shed loads of confidence.
Some of us just existing day to day.Including elasticated waists.

KibbeMe · 28/09/2024 11:53

eggplant16 · 27/09/2024 18:49

Must be bloody marvelous to have a great figure, unlimited funds, shed loads of confidence.
Some of us just existing day to day.Including elasticated waists.

I'm sorry but I don't feel guilty about this thread, nor does it suppress your humanity for me to admire a lady on a train and her lovely, inexpensive clothes. Same goes for badly made garments with hideous waist elastic..

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IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 28/09/2024 12:15

eggplant16 · 27/09/2024 18:49

Must be bloody marvelous to have a great figure, unlimited funds, shed loads of confidence.
Some of us just existing day to day.Including elasticated waists.

The Gabi Toast trousers with elasticated waist are £125. So avalilability or lack of funds isn't the issue

AubrieDog · 28/09/2024 12:33

eggplant16 · 27/09/2024 18:49

Must be bloody marvelous to have a great figure, unlimited funds, shed loads of confidence.
Some of us just existing day to day.Including elasticated waists.

I have neither unlimited funds nor shed loads of confidence and I do wear linen trousers with elastication at the back but a flat front.
But I also like to dress well and invest in good quality clothing.

As to what constitutes a "great figure" - do you just mean being slim or are you including bosomy women with ample derriere? Great figure can mean anything.

KibbeMe · 28/09/2024 14:25

I should hope that mumsnet is inclusive, which means support and chat for people of every body type. No one should be making anyone else feel guilty or ashamed of discussing a slim lady's clothes.
There is a plentiful supply of threads in S&B where women discuss larger bodies, happily sharing advice and ideas. Let's allow slim people, tall people, petite and muscular people to do that, too.

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IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 28/09/2024 15:59

Must be bloody marvelous to have a great figure,

There's no need to have a great figure to be interested in clothes or to wear interesting clothes.

I hate the MN response to , well it feels like almost everything, "that will only look good if you're tall, thin and young"

It's nonsense. Even if I weren't confident about myself I trust the design teams behind the brands I love. I'm a 14 on a good day or a 16 on a bad. If they make their clothes in a 14 or a 16 or an 18 or a 20, they're not creating stock to languish unsold.

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