I want plain shoes, maybe lace ups, to see me through the cold weather.

[MeAgainAndAgain]

I was thinking Dr Martens but all I hear about is the quality is poor. I have Solovair boots which I love, but their lace up shoes look a bit narrow on the toe box for me.

They don’t have to be lace up, but I want sturdy, plain, hard wearing, that sort of thing. Either black, chocolate brown, maroon etc.

And I have wide-ish feet so that narrows down the options if you’ll forgive the pun.

Low heeled.

Can anyone recommend anything they’ve seen anywhere?

Oh, forgot to mention, has extremely wide feet, we usually have to go a size up just for extra width( hence the clarkes in the first place) but with the shoe zone ones he was able to buy his usual size

I know it's a bit of a bit of a pain, but you can always get a couple of pairs online to try at home and return the others ...just a thought

I have Skechers work relaxed fit in black leather and they are blissful and have lasted ages. Trainers really though.

Really? DD had "new" DMs fur school a couple of years ago and they lasted less than 6 months. Literally, smooth sole, stitching undone, leather worn through in the folds.. Even for wearing them 5 days a week, that's not a great life expectancy for the price (at a similar age (12ish) I had DMs that latter be through school and university.

I bought myself some Solovair boots at the same time, which I wear pretty much everyday in the winter and they still look brand new after 2 years

Quality is not poor on dms, if you make sure you get normal leather ones without all the fancy shit

How about barefoot shoes. They have a wide toe box and are as flat as they come.

I'm 2 months into my Vivobarefoot boots and won't be looking back.

I know a lady with a broad foot. She has found that hotter shoes can be good. I know they have a website and they may have the type of footwear you are looking for.

Dr Marten flats
I've ordered these this morning. I have a few winter dresses that they will look good with for work.
Lanx are still my favourite though 😍

My feet are wide-ish and the Solovairs are fine. They are unisex so probably a bit more generous. Try ebay or vinted, or their outlet.
Cordovan Gibson Shoe | Solovair | Handmade in England – NPS Solovair UK (nps-solovair.com)

Their women's shoes are probably a bit narrower. My Toast mary-janes were. Solovair Mary Jane Shoes | Cordovan | TOAST.

You said shoes but ... Demi | Womens Boots in Black Bookbinder Leather | Grenson

Clarks brogues are nice. They look narrow but fit my wider feet ok.

Moshulu are highly spoken of and worth a try if there's a branch near you.

Those Grenson boots 😍 And on sale! Sadly sold out in my size

Lanx are ace. My boots are about to go in to their fourth winter and two
pairs of loafers in to their third. They’re brill, I wear them all the time and they look like new. They’ve sort of ruined other shoes for me.

My Clarks Hamble lace up brogues are still going strong having been reheeled numerous times. They’re very comfortable and I’ve got them in tan and patent black.

Mine too, fortunately, as I do not need another pair of boots and can't afford them. I couldn't resist posting the link though as they're gorgeous and a bargain.

M&S kids shoes! Lots go up to an adult seven some go much larger they also stock start rite online .
DM's are rubbish now no longer a quality shoe just a fashion brand.

I’m never wearing anything again other than Birkenstock boots. I have a laced pair of Birminghams which I love, haven’t got particular narrow feet but got the narrow size which I still find quite roomy so the standard fit must have a good bit of space. I had the Chelsea boot size before and they were good too but the Birminghams are my perfect boot.

Those boots are like £300
For that I'd expect them to be made of little else but decent materials, they're not though.

I love my Arizonas but the Birmingham boots don't do it for me, sorry. For that money, they'd need to be 10/10. We're all different though.

Birminghams are great for me and I bought them as they can be properly resoled which I intend to. To me they seem far better made than my old
DMs and also the Birkenstock Stalon which I’ve had before (they should be at that price!). They’re the only footwear I’ve ever owned where people have approached me to ask where I got them. I really liked the Solovair 6 eye brogue boot but I couldn’t find my size when I was looking and I’m sorted for boots now.

Sounds like a strong recommendation.
I don't like brogues - I think that the way people tend to call any old flat shoes brogues might have put me off them.

I'm not sure how many boots I have but it doesn't stop me wanting new ones.
I get random people complimenting them.

I'm confused why people are suggesting boots when @MeAgainAndAgain asked for shoes.
Pavers shoes sometimes have good leather flats ( you do have to wade through some "interesting" shoe choices"

@Thistooshallpass24 , probably because the OP mentions boots. Some of us did suggest shoes.

@Thistooshallpass24 it's a slippery footwear slope! You start looking and shoes and before you know it there are shoes AND boots in your basket. Then you think perhaps the OP might like them too. I have no suggestions but am enjoying browsing all the shoes and boots on this thread and will probably make a purchase 😁

@MeAgainAndAgain surprisingly shoezone have some imo nice leather shoes ( some of the kids back to school brogues/ lace ups look good!) they also have an amazing returns policy