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I am THIS CLOSE to seriously cotemplating Botox... tell me there is a way to get rid of frown lines!

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 19:57

Please!

I'm oly 30 ffs!

Am watching Eastenders, am aware my forehead is not that dissimilar to Bianca's

A helpful colleague at work told me I needed to stop frowning the other week

I don't think I'm exaggerating...

Is there any hope???

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SquonkTheBeerGuru · 15/04/2008 19:59

I have no advice for you.

I just wondered if, when writing your thread title, you put your finger and thumb really close together to illustrate the "this close"-ness, even though you know we can't see your finger and thumb.... ?

lulumama · 15/04/2008 20:00

aldi anti wrinkle cream is £1.29

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 20:03

Am developing the habit of examining my brow whilst waiting at traffic-lights etc

But do anti-wrinkle creams actually work?

I'm massaging it as I type...

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 20:37

Ok, serious question

Are there any decent anti-wrinkle creams?

I don't want this to start getting me down

Am not usually the sort of person to get dragged down by vanity concerns or body image

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lulumama · 15/04/2008 20:39

aldi one has seriously had excellent reviews and ratings.

do you need glasses? is taht making you frown

i know a very good clinic near me that does botox etc and serious cosmeceuticals.

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 20:43

Yes, good idea re eye test

I guess Aldi is cheaper than Botox! (Really can't believe I am sort-of thinking about this)

The horror stories, though...

Seriously, though, the frown lines are BAD

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cornsilk · 15/04/2008 20:45

Elemis do a pen thing that you draw on your wrinkles which is meant to be really good. I think it's really concentrated stuff.Haven't tried it (expensive) but elemis stuff in general is good.

hifi · 15/04/2008 20:46

they do advise you to start young with botox, they would though, but my friend has had it and looks fantastic. the only thing is you do have to keep it up, she has 2 lots a year at £1500 a pop, fillers inc.

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 20:47

Thankyou

Am making a note of these!

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 20:48

OMG!!!

&1,500 a go?!

Waaaaaaaaaay out of my price range!

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hifi · 15/04/2008 20:54

hers was with a top man, she did have two large deep wrinkles in between her eyes, around her eys done and deep wrinkles at each side of her nose.

MinkyBorage · 15/04/2008 20:56

Get a fringe!!!

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 20:58

Yes, it's the deep wrinkles between eyes I am concerned with

And I think anti-wrinkle cream is the shutting door after horse has bolted thingy

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 20:59

Would need a Chrissie Hynde to cover them up, sadly

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MinkyBorage · 15/04/2008 21:14

grow a uni-brow???

maidamess · 15/04/2008 21:15

I use Boots No 7 version of Touche eclat on my number 11's and that seems to detract slightly.

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 21:15

Noel Gallagher or Chrissie Hynde...

(am trying to keep sense of humour here)

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Monkeybird · 15/04/2008 21:17

no, fringe and glasses (bright plastic frames) do a LOT to distract.

Botox got a bad press in New Scientist recently (crossed blood-brain barrier or summat...)

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 21:20

Right

I just cannot manage a fringe. Hair will just not allow it.

Tell me more about the blood-brain thing

It might kick the ugly self-obsession out of me

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Monkeybird · 15/04/2008 21:21

can't remember - will go and look see if I can find it...

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 21:21

Hmmm... can't do a fringe... maybe a Croydon face-lift?

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Monkeybird · 15/04/2008 21:26

here we go... Botox "can travel down nerve fibres and into the brain within days. While the effects of this are unknown, it raises fresh questions about the safety of the drug, which had been assumed to remain at the site of the infection. ..."

[more here about injecting into rats etc Researchers say they suspect spread is common but might even be beneficial - they don't say more]

and in same article:

"... the US Food and Drug administration is reviewing the safety of Botox due to fears it can occasionally cause breathing difficulties and death. ..."

Doesn't specifically say these two parts of the report are connected and the research is new Italian stuff published in the Journal of Neuroscience.

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 21:30

Monkey, thankyou

I NEVER EVER thought I would be the person that considers the injection of botulism into one's face to be a good thing

Dp would think I'd flipped if he read this

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Fridayfeeling · 15/04/2008 21:33

Somehow gotta learn to love those lines on your face......but god it is hard when we are constantly told we need to get rid of them.

When I feel like Botox at the moment, I listen to KT Tunstall "Suddenly I see". She says :

Her face is a map of the world
Is a map of the world
You can see she's a beautiful girl
She's a beautiful girl
And everything around her is a silver pool of light
The people who surround her feel the benefit of it
It makes you calm
She holds you captivated in her palm

I am sure it's not about not getting Botox, but to me it is saying that your face is yours and can be beautiful in a different way with wrinkles and all ! It doesn't matter.

But god, it is hard to resist when it is so cheap now (not £ 1500 round our way - more like £ 150 !)

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notnowbernard · 15/04/2008 21:43

"My lines are the story of my life"

Yes, I do like that theory

Trouble is, people will think I've had a right shitter of a time

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