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Les Parisiennes des Mamansnet: It's French charm, you know, beheaded people, red wine and blood all over the place - it's romantic, it's normal.

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botemp · 11/08/2024 12:50

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Redandblue11 · 10/01/2025 15:53

I imagine on you that assam colour would look spot on flo.
on me, would look shit tbh.

Redandblue11 · 11/01/2025 08:33

Is anyone else obsessed with Claudia from The Traitors?
and looks forward to see what she will wear?

Floisme · 11/01/2025 11:09

I feel like I'm the only person left on Earth who hasn't seen Traitors - not deliberate, I just never got round to it. But I do enjoy the threads about Claudia's outfits. I've actually got a skirt very similar to that kilt she's always photographed in, and I've dug it out in her honour.

quirkychick · 11/01/2025 12:08

@Redandblue11 me too! I love her tartan/tweed with a twist look. The peterpan collar styles, not so much my thing. Her stylist posts the clothes, all £££, but I'm sure you could find secondhand versions.

@Floisme I think you'd like some of the tweed outfits.

Floisme · 11/01/2025 12:22

Oh I'm sure I would quirky! I did 'double tweed' over Christmas with the 'Claudia' skirt I'd dug out and a mis-matching jacket. I'm not sure if she's already done that or if I thought of it all by myself.

botemp · 11/01/2025 12:32

Ah Flo you're not alone, I rarely watch TV and I can't even remember if we have BBC in our package or not. I have seen the outfits mentioned on here often enough to have a nose and it strikes me as very much conceived by a stylist (nothing wrong with that) but I also wonder if she previously worked for Alexa Chung as I find it very similar to that circa 2009, just slightly changed up with the proportions being exaggerated (the length in the legs over emphasised and/or razor sharpened shoulders).

But to latch it onto my Paris observations, I do feel a silhouette change upcoming and it does seem to follow that template of fitted elongated bottom, more volume on top much like CW's wardrobe. Not sure if that mean skinny jeans are actually back now but I've certainly been more interested in the sharpened up tailoring and eskewing the relaxed fits that are abundant in the sales.

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quirkychick · 11/01/2025 13:04

@botemp yes, CW's outfits do have a whiff of Alexa Chung about them. I probably like them because they seem like a more grown up (for want of a better word) version of late 90s and 00s slightly grungy/alternative style. Though, we'd have probably got the jumpers and skirts from the charity shop!

Floisme · 11/01/2025 14:23

Well bo a skinny jeans revival would certainly make a lot of s&b posters very happy! Personally I've still not forgotten those years of domination when I thought I might die of boredom so I'm not ready to give them another chance just yet.

I am however ready to welcome those long(ish) narrow(ish) skirts back - not the fitted tube skirts from the early noughties but the ones that preceded them that were in woven fabric and had a vent at the back for easy movement. They're looking interesting to me again, in fact I've recently been rummaging for the one I had from La Redoute in a very robust linen that I absolutely loved but I think it's gone. (It probably didn't fit any more to be fair.) I've also thought about making one.

quirkychick · 11/01/2025 14:34

@Floisme my refound maxi skirts are narrow, so maybe I'm being (unintentionally) on trend. One is a kind of knitted/bouclé tube, one is a kind of silk taffeta from LaRedoute and another a Hobbs, grey tweed in a kind of fishtail - some woven.

@botemp I have some slim jeans and trousers still, that I mostly wear in winter, as they're warmer and can tuck into long boots. I don't have any proper skinny jeans, anymore, though.

Papyrophile · 12/01/2025 17:16

Traitors is a bit of a facer in this house, as DS got a call to work on the first season, but turned it down to go back to university, and has been kicking himself ever since.

Voltefarce · 12/01/2025 17:27

Im another one who’s never seen the traitors, but very interested in CW’s outfits (and the “dark academia” aesthetic generally). Perhaps it’s because I have plenty of tweed in my wardrobe anyway from shooting. I’d love for skinny jeans to be back - purely for the tucking into boots.

Redandblue11 · 12/01/2025 17:43

Oh papyrophile! Well I am sure your DS will do better in the long term after uni.

PoppySeedBagelRedux · 13/01/2025 08:38

I've never watched Traitors either - I set up to record a few programmes yesterday and realised they were all factual, usually about architecture or history or both together (there's one about the architecture of the railways which I love...).

Here's a short article about Claudia's clothes and details of the place she buys her capes:

No arms! How Claudia Winkleman made capes cool

https://www.thetimes.com/article/9245cd75-d632-4177-a37e-58f436780c95?shareToken=90f3d4fa3d18bc761cb26a490b9885f6

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 13/01/2025 08:58

I've never seen Traitors or Strictly.

microbius · 13/01/2025 12:14

Lovely news all around. Can't comment on The Traitors but can contribute to the MH sale updates. Flo, I hope you like the T-shirt, the colours are promising. I bought this skirt in the sales. It is a very thick drill and I like the design/silhouette a lot. The photos weirdly don't show the sharp line that the pocket/belt makes.

I am becoming obsessed with MH. Would like not to go to the "collecting" territory, but her clothes suit my life so well and I immediately wear what I buy.

Stone raised cotton drill skirt | MHL. by Margaret Howell

Stone raised cotton drill cinch back skirt. Relaxed, straight cut. Zip fly with button fastening waistband. Slant pockets.

https://www.margarethowell.co.uk/products/women-mhl-cinch-back-skirt-raised-cotton-drill-stone

quirkychick · 13/01/2025 14:52

The only time I watched Strictly, was last year's Children In Need Special, as dd2 was in it with her SEN dance class (it was a blink and you miss it appearance!). We were sworn to secrecy, it took 5hrs filming, I didn't think she'd manage it and I had no idea who any of them were - CW wasn't there.

I suppose the Traitors look is dark academia, I was thinking of it as tweed goth 😁. I'm nowhere near as petite as CW, but the knits, tweed, tartan and clumpy boots are very much my thing. The castle and grounds are very lovely, quite Hogwartsesque too. I'd be absolutely rubbish at it, though.

Redandblue11 · 13/01/2025 21:03

On different news, just saw that Oliviero Toscani has died. He was the famous Benetton photographer.
For me it was iconic and really reminds me of my teenage years… I am trying to remember what age I was when I saw that ad of the nun and priest kissing, the person with the colourful flowers or the mixed race groups on photos.

quirkychick · 18/01/2025 08:22

@Redandblue11 those Oliviero Toscani and those Benetton ads were certainly iconic. There was really nothing like them at the time. The mixed race groups on photos are what I really remember clearly too, it's quite shocking that they were so shocking really.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 18/01/2025 18:17

I haven't thought about Benetton in years. There was a time, around those adverts, when they were everywhere and cool. And then they weren't.

I wasn't sure they still existed. They do- selling nothing terribly interesting.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 18/01/2025 18:30

Acquascutum tweed coat.

Bought in a second hand shop I've passed loads of times and never gone in. The picture doesn't do the colour justice. It's in perfect condition and a perfect fit.

Les Parisiennes des Mamansnet: It's French charm, you know, beheaded people, red wine and blood all over the place - it's romantic, it's normal.
Floisme · 19/01/2025 12:58

Ooh what a lovely find Castle, Aquascutum coats are great.

I've only got a hazy recollection of those Benetton adverts but I do remember really, really wanting one of their jumpers in what must have been the very early 80s. It wasn't just the colours, although that was a big part of it, but it was also the cut and the fit - they made M&S knitwear feel staid and lumpy. But their prices were always just out of my reach.

Speaking of which, the Margaret Howell T shirt is annoyingly good: perfect neckline, relaxed but not oversized fit, sludgy colour (more pondweed than tea but that's fine by me). It's not quite perfect as I prefer long sleeves but these are elbow length which is acceptable. If they do the same one next season and the colours are OK, I'll try and pick up a couple more, maybe one full-price and one in the sales. Toast new arrivals have a couple of promising ones too, although not much cheaper. I wish I could learn to love crew necks, it would make life so much simpler.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 19/01/2025 13:05

Same here with Benetton. I think I had one jumper.

This is their current iteration of what they call "iconic knitwear" . It's underwhelming

Benetton iconic knitwear

Redandblue11 · 20/01/2025 08:37

Castle that coat will last you a lifetime I bet. They are such good quality.
I always check aquascutum coats on second hand shops, but I have not found yet a good one on my size.

yeah - very underwhelming. Not sure what happened to them tbh

Papyrophile · 20/01/2025 10:19

Lovely coat Castle. Well found!

Delighted that the MH T-shirt is perfect Flo and good luck with finding more. I share your dislike of crew necks.

botemp · 20/01/2025 10:44

Benetton featured heavily in my childhood wardrobe, it was one of the few children brands available when we lived abroad. They were everywhere then, truly global, more ubiquitous than McDonald's. I think my mother could have done without the ad campaigns because I wouldn't stop asking questions about them 🫣

I was a bit annoyed that in his obituaries he was described as controversial. That term definitely was correct in his hey day but if you'd never heard of him or saw his campaigns before, you'd probably read controversial as some sort of metoo thing.

Well I took home the horrible souvenir of flu back from Paris and I've only just about recovered enough to think somewhat clearly. So my much delayed Paris observations, silhouettes are definitely slimming down. If it wasn't obvious from the clothes themselves, the staff everywhere insisted on getting everything a size down when I said I was fine trying whatever size was on the rack just to see.

I was right with my predictions that there was a lot of excess stuff in the sales marked down heavily as designer brands have realised they've raised prices too much. Unfortunately I was wrong in thinking this would mean I'd have a bit of an all out YesBuy year because of it. Even at the knock down prices I just wasn't interested.

Other observations, I got to see and feel up Louise Trotter's Carven, the designs were good, basically Joseph when it was good and interesting (I did end up buying a lovely spring coat from Joseph from her era in a secondhand shop) but the fabric choices were very economic but the prices were insanely high. So if she just switches up the quality of fabrics at Bottega Veneta she's probably going to do quite well and Phoebe Philo will have some direct competition.

Speaking of, got to see her stuff at Dover Street Market and I take back anything bad I ever said about it. It's a great irony that an online only brand struggles so much to convey its qualities online. The fabrics are beautiful, as are the cuts and finishes. And the way things sit and fit <happy sigh>. The things that surprised me most were the leather goods, the shoes always looked a bit meh online but they're something else in the flesh, the leathers used on the bags blew me away. And the cashmere, agh, it was a thing of beauty. The only nitpicking I had was that the clothes have the same pitfalls as old Céline in that they're designed for someone with her body, long in the torso and limbs so I need to avoid anything overly fitted. I tried on the bomber jacket but lack of torso length was an issue and some lovely black trousers. I don't need more black trousers but otherwise they'd probably have come home with me. I loved one of the bags but it was too big on me, otherwise that would have been bought without much thought too. Anyhow, it's completely overturned my outlook, not sure what that will turn my YesBuy year into but it's one where I'm not settling for less. Unfortunately it's a very small selection at DSM and I'm not risking it online.

I did spot at the Galleries Lafayette there's a huge shop in shop construction for The Row and next to it, at about half the size, Phoebe Philo. Which is all round positive as I did stop by the new The Row shop but the security guard told me I needed to wait even though the place was empty. Had a bit of a back and forth because I immediately moved to leave, having no desire to stand outside in the cold rain waiting, it was like they really wanted me to wait but I left anyway. Later, I saw the Google reviews of the shop, and they're wild. Apparently people have to wait outside, then once they're inside you have to sit and wait again and you're not allowed to browse anything you're basically led by the hand of a sales associate Confused I'm not sure when they decided they're Cartier now, it's bonkers.

I'm a bit disappointed in what I saw of their new collection as well, a lot of the fabrics had an interfacing backing to give body, I was previously so impressed they sourced fabrics that had that quality in itself and didn't do the lazy garment industry thing of bulking it out and shortening its lifespan with interfacings. I guess all that new investment is demanding growth and the baseline quality will suffer. Not sure how it will fare in the long run but I'm rapidly losing interest.

And to finish with the best news, the consignment shops seem to be back to normal prices. Or at least my old haunts, I did stumble across a Paris' best consignment shop type article from Vogue and visited a few of those and they were frighteningly expensive and the clothes were in rather questionable condition.

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