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Burns night supper - need something tartan…….

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Cherry321 · 06/01/2024 10:42

I’m attending a Burns night supper in a few weeks and the dress code is ‘something tartan’. It’s work so I need to be fairly restrained and I was planning on wearing a black velvet dress and add something but I’m not sure what, maybe some sort of sash? Then there’s the minefield of which tartan to choose. Is it OK to just pick one I like? I’m Welsh so don’t have any links to particular tartans. I might be over thinking this, but would appreciate any suggestions/ advice. Thanks

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Namechange4448830938489 · 22/01/2024 11:45

Regarding the tartans this has just popped up today.

Burns night supper - need something tartan…….
Namechange4448830938489 · 22/01/2024 11:49

Darkofnight · 22/01/2024 01:07

So it's not as if Gaelic signs are needed for Gaelic speakers to be included.

The signs aren't in Gaelic in case people don't understand English. That's not the point at all.
Appreciate that they may not be appropriate depending on the area though.

What would you say is the point of it?

Darkofnight · 22/01/2024 18:32

Namechange4448830938489 · 22/01/2024 11:49

What would you say is the point of it?

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Well, Gaelic is a minority language in Britain and part of its history. From the point of view of nuturing the language it's important to use it, at least in certain relevant areas. It also shows respect to those who wish to speak it still in Britain.

The names in Gaelic actually make sense if you speak or understand the language...they have meaning, and often refer to a local geographical or historical feature of the area. The meaning in the anglicised version is very often lost as anglicisation is frequently just a corrupted rendering of the phonetic sounds of Gaelic. (Sometimes it's a translation to English but often not.)
In some cases the Gaelic spelling is still a better match to the local pronunciation of a placename than the anglicised spelling is.

Basically, the names in Gaelic can convey a lot more information than the English versions do.
It would be a pity to lose all that in the areas where Gaelic is (or historically was) important.

I don't think it should be beyond the bounds of ingenuity to have bilingual signs in some areas of Scotland while not in others.

Namechange4448830938489 · 22/01/2024 19:54

I think we are agreed then that yes in the relevant areas it is a good thing but in other areas then just why? There are actually more Polish speaking people in Scotland now than those speaking Gaelic.

RachelSTG · 27/01/2024 03:31

mibbelucieachwell · 21/01/2024 13:33

@RachelSTG Gaelic was spoken in only some areas of Scotland. The whole of Highland region has signs in Gaelic and English despite some areas of Highland region (Caithness) not having a heritage of Gaelic.

Aside from any other consideration it can make road signs longer to read.

Even in Lewis, which has very widespread Gaelic use, people have been bi-lingual for over 100 years. Admittedly this is probably due to a law passed in 19th century making teaching in English in schools mandatory (and possibly making speaking Gaelic in schools illegal).

My 93 year old neighbour remembers talking Gaelic at home and in the playground but being taught in English at school. Her parents were bilingual.

So it's not as if Gaelic signs are needed for Gaelic speakers to be included.

More people are thought to speak Glaswegian dialect than Gaelic in Scotland.

I grew up in a Scottish island that speaks Gaelic with native Gaelic speaks in my family and a good grasp of Gaelic myself as a second language.

RachelSTG · 27/01/2024 03:32

Speakers!

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