Best spf moisturiser

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I've been looking at the Elemis marine cream and am tempted as it's on prime day deals for £61 but I recently bought they midnight superfood facial and I'm really not impressed.

I'd also would rather not spend that much to be fair.

I need something super moisturising with spf and ideally would like to spend £30 maximum

Any recommendations?

Murad oil and pore control spf 45 is my favourite product.

Using a separate moisturiser and SPF was too greasy for my skin, this really controls shine and makes nice base for make up although I tend to wear it alone.

I just wear Altruist fluid spf 50 on its own. I technically should be using moisturiser as well but I have rosacea and although the redness hasnt faded the condition of my skin is much better. My skin hasnt caught the sun once. And its non greasy. And cheap.

@wutheringkites as the SPF in moisturisers are never at the level they claim to be

I think the Nivea one is a facial spf not just a moisturiser with spf added. It’s the best one I’ve used in years.

The INKEY List Polyglutamic Acid Dewy Sunscreen SPF30 is lovely and only around £15

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I know this is an old post but I really need to get this off my chest! Sadly most (if not all) of the Brands that you are all enthusing about are mass produced and filled with cheap harmful chemicals so they can sit longer on the shelves and are pretty c**p really. Whatever happened to using safe, natural, quality ingredient? Ceramides, hylaraunic acid, peptides, specially patented systems etc. is all just marketing BS to suck in buyers. The Cerave patented technology where the moisture is slowly released from their SPF moisturiser almost cracked me up! It's so great that they recommend you use their hydration serum BEFORE using their moisturiser! So the moisturiser isn't up to the job AND it is a blatant money grab! Sometimes I feel like I've swallowed crazy pills!

Do yourselves a favour and try some wholesome, natural brands such as Mama Nature or White Rabbit Skincare. I use Mama Nature's English lavender day cream with a mineral SPF30 sunscreen on top and my skin is always hydrated and is really glowing. I would rather uses a high quality natural all in one moisturiser and sunscreen to make my life easier but I can't find a decent one that is reasonably priced. Some of the over priced SPF moisturisers (over £50) are filled with toxic chemicals which to me is unforgiveable and god only knows what they are doing to your skin and body. I bought NYR's wild rose SPF30 and it was terrible! Far too oily! I'm going to wait for Mama Nature's moisturiser with SPF which I am told should be available within a couple of months.

@Rachelmannow Personally I’ve never found a good mineral sunscreen - they’re always heavy and leave you with a white caste. I’ll stick to keeping my skin safe AND looking great thanks

I also see there is a misconception about moisturisers with SPF being less efficient than sunscreen. They contain the correct amount of UVA and UVB protection it is just that people apply less moisturising SPF than they would sunscreen due to cost and habit. So if you're using an SPF moisturiser don't be shy with it. And if you are using a stand alone sunscreen try and use a mineral one with as few chemicals as possible. Over and out :)

What's a chemical @Rachelmannow?

@PegasusReturns It may be that you need to apply it differently or have chosen the wrong type. It can all be very confusing. There are some tips for not getting a white caste when using mineral sunscreen.

1. Moisturising before applying the sunscreen helps it glide on smoothly and helps avoid a white cast.
2. Apply the sunscreen in dots and dabs instead of smearing it. By applying a little at a time, in dots and dabs, you apply it much more evenly, avoid streaks and will find it much easier to apply the correct amount while avoiding a white cast.
3. Choose a sunscreen that uses zinc oxide instead of titanium dioxide. Zinc oxide sunscreens are more likely to avoid a white cast on the skin compared to titanium dioxide, which reflects more visible light and can be more visible on the skin.
4. Mineral sunscreens can take a few minutes to absorb fully into the skin. To avoid a white cast, make sure you wait an adequate amount of time after applying the sunscreen before putting on makeup or going out in the sun. This allows the product to fully absorb and reduces any white cast.

I follow these steps and never get a white caste and my skin is looking much better these days since I found out more about skincare.

This all sounds really complicated but it becomes second nature and is really easy.

The problem with chemical sunscreens is...well...they are chemical. So on one hand people are trying to protect their skin from cancer and on the other hand these chemicals are probably causing cellular damage and cancer. Most of these products really should be banned.

Bottom line - if you want to keep your skin safe you should avoid skincare products and sunscreens that are packed with chemicals.

@JenniferBarkley Hi Jennifer, When I say chemicals, it means man made, synthetic ingredients originally created in a laboratory and then manufactured in a chemical factory. Think of chemical factories with all sorts of harmful, toxic fumes spewing out into the atmosphere. What you apply to your skin is also absorbed into your bloodstream. So, basically, applying toxic, chemical skincare is akin to applying poisons to your skin that could alter it at a cellular level and affect your health. It really is criminal what they are peddling these days. What sounds better, applying chemical man made/altered ingredients or natural ingredients grown by nature?

Natural ingredients are also chemicals. Water is a chemical. I'm afraid it's one of those nonsense terms that immediately makes me completely disregard everything else someone says.

I thought that a separate " proper" suncream type SPF was recommended, as the face moisturizers providing uv protection were not tested to the same level as a suncream product and may not be broad spectrum?

Which chemicals do need to avoid/look for on the suncream product ingredients labels?

I’d still probably choose “chemicals” over getting melanoma thanks! Mineral sunscreens do contain chemicals as well obviously. The point is using sun protection in whatever form you’re happiest with, which is always going to be better than using nothing.

Sorry my message was to @Rachelmannow a few posts happened at once!

@JenniferBarkley Hi Jennifer, There is actually a misconception created on purpose by the beauty industry marketers that you should spend lots of money on serums etc. and less on basic moisturisers whereas the truth is the most important thing is to maintain your skin barrier through using a good quality moisturiser or day cream that hydrates your skin and keeps the hydration locked in. Hydration is the most important aspect of skincare along with your skin getting enough nutrients. It is a shame because it really is just a cash grab by 99% of the beauty brands to get your money. Especially these days when money is tight and we are all struggling to pay our bills. They couldn't care less whether you are buying too many products that aren't making your skin look better. I use a great day cream by Mama Nature (English Lavender) that I got as part of a value beauty bundle. All you really need is a cream cleanser, high quality moisturiser/day cream and maybe also a night cream or face mask/serum. The rest is just unnecessary cost, hassle and noise!

I know that, as I said above in my post from July last year.

What I meant was that your use of chemicals betrays a lack of scientific knowledge and immediately makes me disregard such claims as: "What you apply to your skin is also absorbed into your bloodstream. So, basically, applying toxic, chemical skincare is akin to applying poisons to your skin that could alter it at a cellular level and affect your health."

@JenniferBarkley Water is made up of 'chemical elements' and is not a chemical. Also 'chemical elements' are things such as hydrogen, oxygen, potassium etc. The meaning of 'chemical' as a noun is 'a distinct compound or substance, especially one which has been artificially prepared or purified.' So when someone is using the term 'chemicals' it should be in relation to man made, synthetic ingredients THAT ARE NOT natural. In short - unless you suffer from allergies to certain natural ingredients you should avoid chemicals in skincare or anywhere at all costs, if you value your health. In saying that, some people are also allergic to chemicals.

Nothing in life is as simple as natural = good, manufactured = bad (aside from the fact that water is indeed a chemical in the sense that it is a chemical compound).

@SoapCollector There was a study carried out and the main concerns were that many moisturisers had a marketed SPF of less than 30 (they recommend a minimum of 30) and that people were not applying it as liberally as they would sunscreen. Also, you would need waterproof sunscreen if you were in and out of water or sweating so much your moisturiser was being 'washed off'. The SPF moisturisers have obviously been tested it is just the application that is the problem and it should be treated with the same respect you would a sunscreen. Frequent application in hotter weather etc. I personally detest those chemical sunscreens that feel oily and sticky and eventually run into my eyes making them itch like mad. Not to mention the c**p you are putting on your skin.

@SoapCollector What chemicals to look out for? Where do I start? Just try and avoid product with too many ingredients with funny sounding chemical names. Latin names are OK because those are natural ingredients.

@JenniferBarkley Unfortunately you don't know that. You're just trying to win an argument instead of getting to the truth of the matter. As I said previously, natural ingredients are not 'chemicals' but either solely 'chemical elements' or they are made up of several 'chemical elements'.

The word 'chemical' is only one of those 'nonsense terms' as you put it, because you are either too ignorant to understand it or just haven't bothered to try and understand what it truly means. Your comment that 'it's one of those nonsense terms that immediately makes me completely disregard everything else someone says.' tells us everything we need to know about your lack of respect, arrogance and ignorance.

My use of chemicals doesn't betray a lack of scientific knowledge.
Do yourself a favour and read the National Library of Medicine article below. There are probably lots more but I am too busy to keep spoon feeding you information.

Regardless of the scientific evidence available, only the naive would think that wilfully applying synthetic ingredients made in chemical factories would not be harmful in some way or another. It is purely common sense.

Chemical Exposures: The Ugly Side of Beauty Products

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253722/#:~:text=Several%20recent%20reports%20highlight%20the,significant%20enough%20to%20cause%20harm.

All of the good food we eat is either natural and/or contains natural ingredients. I really can't think of anything synthetic and created in a lab that I would want to eat or put in my body. Skincare should be no different. I am now signing out of our conversation.

@NotAVampire Love your nickname! As long as you apply SPF30 sunscreen regularly (which you should be doing anyway) the chances of getting melanoma must be almost zero unless you have a family history of skin cancer where other family members covered up with sunscreen etc. and still got cancer. There really should be no issue. And if you are that concerned then covering up and wearing large brimmed hats etc. would be well advised also.

Zinc Oxide, which is in many mineral sunscreens is a naturally occurring 'mineral' and is NOT a chemical. Chemicals are made in labs and chemical factories whereas 'chemical elements' are found naturally. There is a clear distinction.

Also, dermatologists recommend mineral sunscreens over synthetic ones because they are better for your skin (particularly sensitive skin) and minerals such as Zinc Oxide can reduce inflammation, reduce oiliness, reduce pore size, soothe irritations and even have occlusive benefits by preventing trans epidermal water loss (they keep moisture locked in). That is why Zinc Oxide is included in many skincare preparation that have nothing at all to do with SPF benefits. Many dermatologists also fear the effects toxic synthetics can have once they enter the bloodstream and some are even not recommended for use during pregnancy.

In addition to what I have already said, I hate the feeling of traditional synthetic lotion as it itches my eyes, and feels greasy and yucky! I also feel smothered when I wear it as if my skin can't breathe!

Basically this is an oxymoron. People are applying synthetic sunscreens because they are trying to protect their health whilst at the same time they are potentially putting their health at risk. There is so much misinformation and urban myths abounding that it can be really confusing.

I'm not judging anyone . As long as people know all of the risks they can then do a risk assessment and make a decision that SUITS THEM! I also appreciate that some things are just not affordable. Which is a shame. Agreed - better to use something than nothing at all. Signing out now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_oxide

The zinc oxide in your sun screen is made in labs and factories.