What is more ageing?

[RosetteNebula]

In your opinion, what is more ageing - forehead lines or hollow eyes? I'm in my early 30s (I know, still relatively young) but feel like shit about my face. I'm religious about skincare, drink lots of water, take vitamins, healthy plant based diet, gave up alcohol, exercise and wear factor 50 every day but I know these things will only do so much and I know things will only get worse.

I've mostly trained myself not not to frown or squint but I do have horizontal lines above my outer eyebrows and faint elevens although they are more diagonal than standard 11s. I notice these in the mirror (especially my magnifying mirror) but they don't really show up in pictures.

My eyes have also hollowed out since my late 20s and I do feel this is quite noticeable. I don't want to get botox on my forehead but have been considering tear trough fillers or mesotherapy. Do you think if I tackled the eye area but left my forehead alone I could still look good?

I'm aware I probably sound totally self absorbed by the way. I've had issues with my appearance since I developed bulimia at 14 but at least I was always young looking until the last few years. I've really relapsed with the ED too because I keep thinking well I'm never going to be pretty again but at least I can control my weight.

So I'm hoping doing something to my face might cheer me up. Btw I've had multiple rounds of microneedling and Jalupro but felt the results were minimal.

Oh and in case anyone thinks I'm ageist, I know ageing is natural and I wish I didn't care so much but I do.

Op, I mean this kindly but I don't think fillers or botox are the answer to your problems here.
Would you consider talking to somebody about your self image?

You're probably right 😂 I did have various types of therapy when I was younger but they didn't really help. It made me understand why I did things but didn't stop me doing them. I feel like I wouldn't want to waste any more NHS resources when there are people who need help way more than me.

Why will you never be pretty again? This is so sad.

Because I already look awful compared to the way I looked in my mid twenties and it will only continue to get worse as I age.

I really didn't intend to get this deep. I started the thread planning to just ask about tear trough fillers 😂

Tear trough fillers will fuck up your face. You are a prune candidate for looking a mess due to unwise procedures.

I’d spend the fillers budget on a good therapist. Feeling shit about yourself is definitely ageing.

Tbh I think I am probably too scared to get fillers anyway.

To answer your question the forehead lines will make you look older. You can always use make up on your eyes.

There’s nothing more ageing than being in a state about it ageing.

Breathe for a minute. Would therapy be a better idea for now?

How about a brow lift to reduce the forehead wrinkles. It may also lift the eyelids and make your eyes look more open. Try lifting the skin about your brows and see what happens.

Best to consult a skilled cosmetic surgeon.

You don't need to consider anything so extreme surely. Why not work on how you feel etc on the inside. Water exercise and enough sleep make a massive difference as does good diet. A light self tan too. When I was on my knees with small non sleeping child and stressful job, I used to do shortcuts like just wash fringe every morning as no time to do whole head (!) use Rimmel French manicure polish on my nails ( dries in a minute and as virtually no colour doesn't show chips) and also had good results and improved skintone / minimised black circles and lines with an IPL mask. Boots have just brought out a well priced one. If all else fails a bright new lipstick in shade that suits you makes all feel better. Sure you look nicer than you think anyway.

You’re doing all the right things lifestyle-wise, so I bet you look great.

Which vitamins/supplements do you take?

If you are bothered by your forehead, maybe consider having your hair cut with a fringe.

I've had fine lines on my forehead since I was 13 and still producing collagen. I'm a bit skeptical that anything can actually make them go away. I've just accepted them as part of my face.

So, seconding the fringe idea.

Is it … kind to be offering this sort of advice to someone in their early thirties with an eating disorder?

The OP almost certainly looks like the young woman she is - but I dread to think how she’ll look at 75 if she spends the next 40 years turning her face into a jigsaw puzzle.

'Kind"? Not something that crosses my mind 😆

I missed that OP is mid-30s. That is too young for cosmetic surgery. Only from late 40s.

I think that the "prune candidate" was a really unfortunate auto correct