Botox & foreo bear & tired eyes

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I'm a bit confused - can anyone help?

One of my worst aging issues is that my eye now look much droopier than they used to, like I'm constantly tired (although I am but even when I'm not it looks like that).

I started using the foreo bear to tone up y muscles because I thought if the muscles above my eyebrows were more toned it would lift the whole area up.

But then I looked into Botox and it seems to suggest that it works by relaxing these muscles, and that's what opens up the eyes.

So which is it? Muscles tighter or muscles looser?! Am I making it worse with the foreo??

As I understand it, the Foreo trains the muscle (sort of) and makes it expand therefore gives some lift and volume to the face and makes lines and sagging less apparent.

Botox around the eyes is more complex as it's applied in different areas. Around the smile lines/crow's feet relaxing the muscle will smoothen out the area as it can't contract and relax anymore. Around the eyebrow it seems to be more complex as it can give some lift by applying it there but if done incorrectly it actually looks worse and you have a very droopy eye and some practitioners refuse to do it for risk of complications.

Muscles around the eye are very complex though so that's probably why you're hearing contradicting things, microcurrent and botox will work in different ways and with different visible results and results of both can complement each other so it doesn't necessarily have to be either/or.

I can't find my comparison picture now, but I think I posted it in the last on 2nd to last long running skincare thread.

I really lifted the sagging skin on my eyes using the bear in around a month. I use it by lifting the skin by my eyebrow tail and holding it for around 10 seconds, then repeat in eyebrow middle. I saw this technique on YouTube but it was about 2 years ago and I couldn't tell you where now.

As long as you keep it up it works, if you stop for months on end the effect goes away, but it did work on me pretty quickly. For ref I'm 41 but have genetically saggy eyes.

I went for a botox consultation and 1) they said I had too many expression lines for it to work on my forehead- I'm a very expressive talker lol

2. the risk of more sagging and that a blephtomy (sp?) would be the only way to really fix it...when my aunt (genetically saggy) was my age she was offered one on the NHS and turned it down - she's been telling us for years we are to jump at it as its her biggest regret......err the NHS is definitely NOT going to do those anymore.

3. the cost was too much for me to justify, when I could spend it on other things.

So I think the bear could sort out the issue, it did for me, as long as you are consistent with it

That's helpful thank you both. I'll try to track down that bear eyebrow technique then

I’d be grateful if you could share the video if you do find a helpful one please OP!😊