Anyone have success or stories with jowls? Before/after pics of treatments which have been tried?

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I know that this is vanity. I am 50 and the JOWLS!! I look like a hound dog.
there are a few threads but not a great deal of success / failure stories. I don’t want surgery, I’m having CACI course I had several pre covid and only just started back up) and use Nuface. Fingers crossed.. Any success stories with facial yoga etc? I will put the time in. I’ve not weight or anything, eat very well exercise etc.
Any help appreciated - I am desperate

I have slight droopiness so not in facelift category yet. I will fully consider it in my 50s (I’m 46). I’ve just tried Sofwave (like Ultherapy but less likely to cause fat loss which is a risk with that). It’s an ultrasound treatment that heats the skin. I’ll see what results I get in 2 months and work out whether it was worth it!

I also use a Foreo Bear device which helps slightly - I do notice when I’m not doing it.

Its such a hard area to treat and I think jowls are more ageing than wrinkles.

I’m also going to try face yoga but there’s only so much all these things can do..

I’ve heard bad things about thread lifts. The scarring can cause a strange pulling effect.

I had a thread lift, in through my temple to pull my whole face up from my cheeks, as that's what was recommended to me for my jowels (which are bad, especially when I put on weight, thanks mum). That was advised over just threads in my jaw.

I wasn't impressed tbh. The puckering which they didn't tell me would be really bad lasted longer than the week they said it would, luckily I had long hair at the time and I had a hat with me for leaving. Think they pulled it far too tight. It looked good for a few weeks but then nothing.

Maybe a subtler jaw one would be better?

What is 2 stitch face-lift?

Only surgery can fight the effects of gravity-this is obvious. No amount of any injectables or anything else will make a difference. My close friend had a thread lift and was a complete waste of money. I think she spent £3k on it. She then waited a year or so and had a lower face lift with a reputable surgeon which looked fantastic. I couldn't believe how quickly she healed from it.
I intend on doing the same when I need it.
If your jowls really, really bother you then a face lift is the only intervention that will work.

A 'two stitch' or 'one stitch' face lift does not involve threads - although I know it sounds as if it does. Skin is removed by her ear ( loose skin) and skin is then pulled up and sewn discreetly by the ear.

Not quite a full lower face lift, sort of a half way measure. Lovely results, subtle not effective.

Filler just injected into the upper cheek bones is also good as it replaces our diminishing fat pads. Somebody mentioned a Foreo - I think they're good as well for massage.

@peanutbutt I know it will vary - but what’s the rough cost for the one/two stitch face lift? I’m may need to start saving now. Is it local anaesthetic? Thanks!

I think it's between 4-5 k. So not entirely unattainable. It's the type of face lift where people wouldn't be able to guess. I often w

Posted too soon 🙄. I often wonder if people like Beyoncé or JLo had one at around 30-35. Subtle enough not to be noticeable, but effective enough to give them 10 years of non jowly joy !

Sorry didn't answer your question. Yes local. Very little down time but you are discharged with a bandage round your head 😱.

Thanks @peanutbutt I too wonder if this is what the celebs who look like they’ve had no discernible work well in to their 50s have had. I think a tight jawline without survey is hard once you get to a certain age.

I think £4-5k is very reasonable. Especially with treatments such as Morpheus 8 and Ultherapy run in to the £1k plus and don’t last much longer than a year or so. And are less effective (but less invasive admittedly).

Definitely something I will consider in the future.

Well that's a disappointing read! Thank god for face masks 😷

I would think so. I'm pretty sure they are advised to start earlier so that the change is not so noticeable, plus jowls are far more ageing that wrinkles, as they change the whole shape of your face.
Also, so many of them have had nose jobs/ tweakments as well to make their faces more symmetrical. I guess when your face is 20 feet high on a cinema screen you want it to look its best.

For example Helen Mirren is always touted as a great example of ageing beautifully, as she has some lines and wrinkles, and doesn't seem to have botoxed herself into oblivion - but she also has an incredibly tight jawline for a woman in her 70's. No way that is natural.

There's a plastic surgeon who specialises in facelifts, Dr Amir Karam - he has a youtube channel and he talks about patients of his getting it done in their mid 40s to early 50s before they get too noticeable, rather than waiting until 60's and having a huge difference. His results are brilliant, but of course he is selling his services, so of course he would recommend it.

I guess it’s a good strategy- focus on the jaw line - don’t go over board with any other treatments and that could look natural.

I had to stop Botox as I felt it looks incongruous having a reasonably smooth forehead and a slightly saggy lower face. That’s when work becomes obvious- when parts of the face don’t match.

i have heard you can get a Botox procedure in your neck called a nefertiti neck lift, they put Botox in the neck band muscles and under your chin along the jawline that weakens the neck muscles ( the ones that look like neck bands) so that they aren’t tight and stop pulling the face down, anyone have any experience of this?

it kind of makes sense when you think about it

I had this back in June (I’m laughing looking at my old post as I clearly went back for more Botox).

I thought it hadn’t worked but I was less bothered by slight sagging. And now it’s worn off I’m noticing again. I went to a very good doctor who is very subtle. However it pushed the price of the Botox up and again only lasts 3-4 months so gets a bit ££.

I have done a new post with before and after photograph setting out my routine https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/style_and_beauty/5012409-my-jowls-have-actually-improved?reply=133188312