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Anyone else hate practical winter coats?

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trilobiterevival · 01/10/2022 22:46

Apart from my long swishy wool one (ankle length), which is a luxury to me, I think I hate them. But it's almost too gorgeous and not practical for every kind of weather.
I used to live in the Lake district and spent most of my time, from September to April in waterproofs. Those synthetic wind resistant things, usually by North Face or Berghaus, etc. Then there's that other cold weather solution - the massive padded parka jacket type of thing (Didriksons, Seasalt), I grew sick of them also, lol.

I do live a bit further south now, but have learned a few things:

1/ Those raincoats are not warm, unless you stick 3 layers of wool beneath or wear a puffer with it.
2/ The big warm coats (Didriksons, etc) are usually really heavy, and a royal pain in the arse if you are suddenly warm and have to lug it about. Unless you wear very slim fit jeans or leggings they tend to look dishevelled, huge and odd with anything.
3/ Barbour and other wax jackets are ok, but either never warm enough, or usually come in dark murky colours that don't suit me Sad
4/ Wool turned out to be the actual warmest of all, without having to wear tons of layers underneath. They also look nicer (to me) and go with nearly anything. Still, often quite heavy and ludicrously expensive if 100% wool.

My solution (possibly insane):

Ditch practical coats Grin Just keep maybe one, loose fitting rain mac and wear knits. Aran, cashmere, whatever. A few merino underlayers. A warm scarf and hat. Make the knits do the heavy lifting. I tested this out over the past few winters and was surprisingly cosy. The only downside is rain, so it's either an umbrella job or like I said, a lightweight waterproof long ish mac you can stuff in a bag.

I feel this will be an unpopular opinion, but it's lighthearted! Surely it isn't just me who has had enough coats!?

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WutheredOut · 01/10/2022 23:20

I went coat shopping today and came home with nothing

I’m short and currently a size 14 so the duvet coats make me look like a weeble

I need something long as I like wearing longer cardigans to cover my arse so my coat needs to be longer than them. I wear dr martens most of the winter as most of my walks are to school through the woods or out walking the dogs so a fancy looking coat is out - I am not fancy

I wear layers already so I need long, lightweight, waterproof and something that doesn’t look like I’m wearing one of those blow up sumo suits

There is nothing!

trilobiterevival · 01/10/2022 23:54

i get you. I feel overwhelmed and like a tired flump in any kind of padded anorak. I think it's all good if you prefer to wear something light underneath but most coats out there never suit me. I have a long puffer from COS that is ok when open but zipped up it is like a giant caterpillar, or sleeping bag. And sadly in one rain shower last year the down clumped up :(

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RampantIvy · 02/10/2022 00:08

I tired on the MN favourite raincoat - the Janelle yesterday. It looked like a sack on me.

I do have a practical raincoat for winter. It is this 3 in 1 parka style from Decathlon that I bought 4 years ago, and I wear it a LOT.

The inner jacket is an excellent lightweight jacket on its own in dry milder weather. I love that it has so many pockets.

LimpBiskit · 02/10/2022 00:22

I'm function over form every time, Don't care what I look like as long as I'm comfortable.

GroggyLegs · 02/10/2022 00:27

I invested in a Rab parka last year.

Warm, long, light. Not too Weebly.

But yes, sadly not as stylish as a wool coat.

trilobiterevival · 02/10/2022 00:28

@RampantIvy that's a great colour and nice as it's a flattering length. I think I just hate coats for their weight and the faff in general. I love winter but not the clothes.

@LimpBiskit Function over form, that's interesting. I was thinking about it in terms of (non financial) economy, like ease of use, less crap in the wardrobe and minimal fuss. I have this dream of going through winter with one cashmere and one aran jumper with a few cheap merino vests underneath.
There's so much out there, so many coats for every mood and change of weather. It's strange to think at one time people went through an entire season with just the one, single coat. Usually wool, and it lasted!

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trilobiterevival · 02/10/2022 00:29

...and it probably smelled a fair bit too, lol.

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RampantIvy · 02/10/2022 00:31

Mine is black @trilobiterevival. Khaki doesn't suit me at all. I thought I had linked the black one. Oh well.

I have a long black smart wool coat and a purple three quarter length one, but they aren't as warms as my 3 in 1 coat.

MaryQueenOfSwots · 02/10/2022 00:32

I agree OP. I hate coats. Plus lots of the so-called smart coats around at the moment are oversized or shapeless so very unflattering.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/10/2022 00:33

LimpBiskit · 02/10/2022 00:22

I'm function over form every time, Don't care what I look like as long as I'm comfortable.

Me too. I'm mostly happy with my berghaus goretex jacket in winter with a fleece under - that's nearly always warm enough because I'm walking. I've got a warmer jacket for town wear, it's got some padding but not excessive and it'll turn a shower.

Raidtheice · 02/10/2022 00:40

I agree with function over appearance.

If you need something waterproof, and can't just manage with an umbrella, this suggests to me you're doing something outdoorsy that would get you mucky. I don't understand why you're concerned about looking nice when you're going to be soaked, caked in mud and taking most of it off the second you get through the door anyway. No one looks good up the top of a hill on a January day. And the people who do look good, generally don't make it up the hill because they're too cold/wet/muddy in their impractical clothing.

trilobiterevival · 02/10/2022 00:45

ErrolTheDragon · 02/10/2022 00:33

Me too. I'm mostly happy with my berghaus goretex jacket in winter with a fleece under - that's nearly always warm enough because I'm walking. I've got a warmer jacket for town wear, it's got some padding but not excessive and it'll turn a shower.

this is how i dress in reality, but im just fed up with it for some reason. I think the cold has come suddenly and I am resistant to giving in to it Grin

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trilobiterevival · 02/10/2022 00:48

Raidtheice · 02/10/2022 00:40

I agree with function over appearance.

If you need something waterproof, and can't just manage with an umbrella, this suggests to me you're doing something outdoorsy that would get you mucky. I don't understand why you're concerned about looking nice when you're going to be soaked, caked in mud and taking most of it off the second you get through the door anyway. No one looks good up the top of a hill on a January day. And the people who do look good, generally don't make it up the hill because they're too cold/wet/muddy in their impractical clothing.

im confused, i am not getting covered in muckGrin
if i wanted to go hiking i would dress accordingly. Im just talking about everyday wear.

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ElEmEnOhPee · 02/10/2022 01:26

I hear you. I don't drive so practical is a must but winter just makes me look frumpy. Bought myself a parka a few years back and just looked like a fat farmer.

crispinglovershighkick · 02/10/2022 01:29

I love coats! But I hate heavy, bulky clothes (including chunky jumpers) and I don't want a different saggy waterproof coat for each season. I just buy coats I like the look of and stick a down layer (thin jacket or gilet) underneath if it's cold. If it's wet I leave the coat at home, put a pac a mac over the down layer and use an umbrella if I must. If it's nice out but forecast is dicey I put the pac a mac and a rolled up gilet in my bag. (Something about the way they roll up into a little bag really tweaks something in my brain, I feel so prepared and organised.)

To be fair if it's really bucketing down my bottom half just gets wet so it's no solution if you need to be out in lashing wet and cold for hours.

If it's really cold I wear silk long johns as well. No bulk, sweating or clinging. Also good under lighter dresses in the spring or autumn when the weather is changing, you can just push the cuff up so it looks like your legs are bare. Not bad in the rain too as they dry almost instantly and don't chafe or sag. (Sometimes in the winter I wear them under my pyjamas.) If it's perishing I wear merino long johns instead of silk but in practice I've needed those in New York more than in London.

This is a good thread, I've thought so much about the whole thing (wet and cold vs wet and warm, sweaty vs freezing etc) over the years and it took ages to find a workable alternative to the dreaded sacklike waterproof.

Ridingladybugs · 02/10/2022 07:29

Oh I agree OP - particularly the weight. I got a Didrikson which ended up never wearing as it was just so heavy.

I do have a very old down coat from Creenstone that I quite like - it at least has some shape to it. I also managed to get a lovely MaxMara wool coat on eBay recently.

Am currently trying to resist buying a totally impractical fake fur jacket 😁

Ridingladybugs · 02/10/2022 07:30

On the subject of pac a Macs ( although I have also invested in a decent umbrella this year!) has anyone found any that are vaguely breathable? Stylish would be a step too far ..

ErrolTheDragon · 02/10/2022 07:59

Ridingladybugs · 02/10/2022 07:30

On the subject of pac a Macs ( although I have also invested in a decent umbrella this year!) has anyone found any that are vaguely breathable? Stylish would be a step too far ..

Yes, I've got a berghaus packable shell jacket - I think this is the current equivalent.
DD kept nicking mine when she was in the sixth form as it was good for carrying in her rucksack so I got her one too, it's been her main practical coat all through uni cycling or walking, she's had it 5 years now and on a boating holiday with her last week it was still looking like new and waterproof. So although it's more expensive than a Jack-in-a pack it's been very good value. The outdoor shops usually have them below list price.

https://www.berghaus.com/women-s-deluge-pro-jacket-black/13160665.html

Realityloom · 02/10/2022 08:02

WutheredOut · 01/10/2022 23:20

I went coat shopping today and came home with nothing

I’m short and currently a size 14 so the duvet coats make me look like a weeble

I need something long as I like wearing longer cardigans to cover my arse so my coat needs to be longer than them. I wear dr martens most of the winter as most of my walks are to school through the woods or out walking the dogs so a fancy looking coat is out - I am not fancy

I wear layers already so I need long, lightweight, waterproof and something that doesn’t look like I’m wearing one of those blow up sumo suits

There is nothing!

Topshop online. Always did great quality coats.

KangarooKenny · 02/10/2022 08:06

I won’t wear any wool type coat as it brings back bad memories of a smelly duffle type coat I had to wear at high school. It got wet and heavy in the rain, and as we had no heating it rarely dried out in winter. And it stunk, so I must have stunk.

Realityloom · 02/10/2022 08:22

@Ridingladybugs where did you buy your umbrella from please?

Goldmember · 02/10/2022 08:29

I bought a proper winter coat last year. Actually waterproof with a hood, long and warm without being too chunky. It's not the most glamorous but what coat is?

This year I picked up a non padded raincoat for the big downpours but its not particularly cold.

I picked both of them up on the Joules ebay outlet store for £50 each, I think they should have been £130ish.

Ridingladybugs · 02/10/2022 08:29

@Realityloom - it was from Amazon - Balios. Seems to withstand winds much better than others I’ve had

Curledupnow · 02/10/2022 10:01

I have quite a few lovely wool coats....and a North Face Arctic Parka - which I think looks bloody awful but God it's like wearing a big warm cuddle and I hate being cold more than I hate that coat! And even with the Arctic Parka I still need the cashmere beanie and blanket scarf, the leather ski gloves, the merino layers with wool jumpers - and I live in the south!😂

LadyLolaRuben · 02/10/2022 10:28

A lady after my own heart. Ive always hated big coats - ever since school. Great when cold. Bulky to carry around when too hot for indoors. Raincoats are just waterproof layers with no insulation. Your way of doing things is similar to mine