My face filler disaster - please advise.

[MyFaceWhat]

Before I start: This is a 1st world problem. Yes, I am very lucky to be able to afford this.

I'm late 40s, been having Botox since age 45, it always looks great.

To rid myself of my hangdog look I paid for marionette and nasolabial fillers. On the advice of the practitioner I also had lip, cheek and jawline filler.

The marionette & nasolabial didn't take. At all.
All of the others had disappeared within 3 weeks.

The practitioner did them again. 3 weeks later it's all gone.

I do not want thread lifts.
It's lower face only.

What are my alternatives?

*the advice

I'm nearly 60 and never had a filler or botox but I have been having microcurrent facials for over 10 years and I barely have a line on my face. Another woman told me tonight she thought I was in my early 40's, I'll take that :-)

I'm just starting to get a bit of a sag in that linear area between the corner of the mouth down to my chin but I'm not particularly bothered, happy to age gracefully as nature intended but still keeping up with my 'electric' facials :-)

Depressing it may be @Silverfinch, but it is the reality, not just for me but for a lot of women. I'm starting to feel peri-menopausal and having to hide that too. Any sign you are past it and you are out of a job. It is the reality for far many more people than you would realise

Are you not part of the problem by going along with it?

It doesn't sound like a disaster other than it not working well. So I'd change practitioner. I have some Botox myself so I do understand the benefits of a little bit of treatment and you are right about the pressure on women to have youthful faces.

I would consult a plastic surgeon . Far more cost effective and longevity

SkeletonFight
*You do know that doctors can do a course in all of this in an afternoon? I use a consultant dermatologist and facial surgeon. There is no way I would let a "practitioner" loose on my face.

It was my plastic surgeon that told me this SkeletonFight. He told me it's scary how little training that GP's and other so called experts get.

Sculptra (there's a similar one which cost £50 more but can't remember the name) is more long lasting. Works differently and it takes a while to build up but the results are longer lasting. Specialist filler so not many practitioners and cost about £300 a syringe.

It was my son's ex GF who did this - quick couple of hours to enable her to make lots of money on the side as it were.

She was a qualified doctor.

A cardiologist is not a surgeon.

Do you wear SPF daily (separate SPF not cosmetic with SPF, ideally spf50) and do you use retinol? That's the first point of call in anti ageing really. Without these two fillers etc. will not likely help that much.

theDudesmummy
A cardiologist is not a surgeon.

Fair enough I was incorrect in my example but I still stand by my views.

cottagegardenflower
Sculptra (there's a similar one which cost £50 more but can't remember the name) is more long lasting. Works differently and it takes a while to build up but the results are longer lasting. Specialist filler so not many practitioners and cost about £300 a syringe.

Sculptra can't be dissolved if it goes wrong. You are left with it over a 2yr timeframe. I personally wouldn't touch sculptra. If you go on realself.com it would scare you some of the results from sculptra and what people have to accept over the next 2 years. I know hyaluronic filler can go wrong but at least it can be dissolved immediately.

There is no cosmetic training or exam as part of GP training. The qualifications they do to administer fillers etc. are usually only one day courses that aren't part of their specialty curriculum.

Yes they're doctors so will be more aware of anatomy due to their primary medical degree, but other than that there's no advantage over any random beautician.

The only doctor you want messing about with your face is a plastic surgeon or dermatologist.

Also I wouldn't ask a cardiologist/?cardiothoracic surgeon about plastics. That isn't their specialism.

Do you have CACI treatments? How often do you go?

Yes I go 4 weekly. My practitioner says I have the most responsive face she's ever worked on and uses me as a demonstrator face. I'm lucky ot works so well for me.

I also think good skin/tone is partly genetic, my dad had amazing skin despite having an outside job his entire working life - never used sunscreen and always looked 20 years younger than his age. My mum however is a heavy smoker and has always looked grey and much older.

Ultherapy.

This cardiologist (our friend) is a surgeon. They are not the person who did my treatments.

The GP's hospital specialism was a reconstructive surgeon in the forces before she became a GP. She has won legitimate awards for this, I checked them before I first went to see her.

In my industry it is not just women who feel the pressure to look young, but men too.

You may choose to have treatments yourself, you may not, either way, I wouldn't judge you for it.

However, I can assure you that the public - and like it or not, that includes you - overwhelmingly prefer to deal with younger looking people in my industry.

I use sunscreen every day, even in winter and indoors.

OP, what industry are you in?

I am intrigued. Are you on TV? Politics? Modelling?

I would research another clinic and ask advice about why your fillers disappeared after 3 weeks. Compare advice with previous practitioner and the new one but don't go back.

Look at vr lift - nick Rhodes

When I read your post I thought you meant him out of Duran Duran @bombemma 😂

Then I gave it a Goog and that! That is exactly what I am looking for. So thank you (but not thank you that Rio is now my current earworm 😁).

After I started this thread on Friday I took some photos of my face, in sections.
My cheekbones are still really good, as is my neck. There isn't any spare on my neck to lift, shift or mould.

It's the are-they-or-aren't-they jowls that are just starting to bother me, so Nick Rhodes (the other one) and his VR lift is spot on.

Thank you 🙏

It's likely they used a cheaper end filler. The cheaper ones don't last so they can keep you coming back for more. And/or they didn't inject it properly.

A reputatable injector is worth their weight in gold honestly! You'll find half their business is disolving, correcting and redoing fillers for people who have had shoddy results elsewhere. Cowboy injectors are huge menace these days.