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Understated luxury

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Tillsforthrills · 01/05/2022 08:18

Following a recent thread about aspirational items that some deemed as déclassé or a cliché, what clothing and bags do you see as luxury and well made but understated?

OP posts:
NRRK28 · 02/05/2022 00:14

clothing usually i bought from reiss, lk bennet, raey. But my favourite is reiss. I found it more classy and good in my body.

t shirt (more sporty look) usually from kenzo

bags celine, dior, gucci (always choose small logo). I used to like LV in my 20s but now i’m older i found a bit tacky with all the logos.

Mrcpy · 02/05/2022 07:11

CoraPearl · 01/05/2022 10:02

Haha, no, although to be fair, most of the decent bags at Hermes - Birkin, Kelly and Constance are all special orders anyway!

There was a pile-on because some took great offence to some of my posts, mostly because I didn’t think some of the list was aspirational and offered other choiceS. Ironically, some of the items listed in the OP - Carier Love bracelet, Van Cleef & Arpels Alhambra bracelet and Mulberry, were all items the OP stated at the outset she did not like anyway.

Personally, I think buying something because it is thought to be aspirational a little sad, just buy what you like, who cares what others think, particularly online strangers!

OP, sorry for thread derail.

I’m glad you noticed in my other OP that I don’t personally aspire to those big labels - it was a list compiled from reading blogs and forum posts.

So I’m keenly following this thread to discover more tasteful items to aspire to 😅

Mrcpy · 02/05/2022 07:13

@CoraPearl
Personally, I think buying something because it is thought to be aspirational a little sad, just buy what you like, who cares what others think, particularly online strangers!

Do you not think it’s a little sad to buy something purely because it’s exclusive?

Mrcpy · 02/05/2022 07:16

CatHerderGeneral · 01/05/2022 11:00

As I said on the other thread, I think the ultimate luxury is having things made just for you.
Beautiful, one of a kind pieces designed to your requirement and tailored exactly to you in natural fabrics, and bespoke jeweller from skilled craftspeople. That to me is true luxury.

For specific brands, I do love Oscha scarves, I had a few of their baby wraps when the DC were small, and the quality is unbeatable. They are not particularly expensive, relatively speaking either.
Even after years of abuse and small person bodily fluids, regular washing and tumble drying, they still look like new. They are ethically handwoven in Scotland in small batches, and the fabrics are stunning. The Middle Earth LOTR/Hobbit inspired ones are stunning.

www.oschaslings.com/shop/accessories/shawls

Thanks so much for the link - absolutely gorgeous! I was/am a huge LotR fan and these are stunning

LaMarschallin · 02/05/2022 07:33

I've a few things that I aspired to (because I really wanted them, liked the look of them and they were quite expensive). Sadly, I'm unlikely to get many more as I'm one of the nouveau pauvre - would much prefer to have the finances to be déclassé in an expensive way Smile

The "discreet luxury" thing reminds me of a story about Caroline Bessette-Kennedy who apparently ordered a whole new ski wardrobe from Prada, then paid extra to have the (relatively subtle) red "P" labels removed.

MinnieJumbo · 02/05/2022 08:01

This is my thread and you are my people.
Agree with so much that is written here, I have very little to add.
Luxury to me is also bespoke, handmade or tailored specifically to the individual.

CoraPearl · 02/05/2022 09:16

Mrcpy · 02/05/2022 07:13

@CoraPearl
Personally, I think buying something because it is thought to be aspirational a little sad, just buy what you like, who cares what others think, particularly online strangers!

Do you not think it’s a little sad to buy something purely because it’s exclusive?

It depends how you look at it really. Do you not think it’s a little sad to buy something purely because someone on Mumsnet told you to?

What is really the question is what exclusive means to you. For the majority, it just means expensive. For others, it means things that are hard(er) to find/procure/produced in limited number. I fall in the latter camp.

Many of the items I own are things thousands of other people own. Sometimes it is nice to buy something that relatively few people have - it’s a bit dull, if not annoying, to turn up somewhere to find others wearing identical things. Maybe at the very least, it’s a way to stand out from the crowd rather than following it. I mean really, who wants to be just like everyone else? We’re all individuals after all.

Oh, and yes, of course I noticed in your other OP that you don’t personally aspire to those big labels - it’s a shame the other posters didn’t notice this fact and thought I was attacking your choices.

🤷🏻‍♀️

CoraPearl · 02/05/2022 09:18

@KimikosNightmare Am not quite sure what I have done to offend you, but please stop this.

Thank you.

KimikosNightmare · 02/05/2022 11:54

Mrcpy · 02/05/2022 07:13

@CoraPearl
Personally, I think buying something because it is thought to be aspirational a little sad, just buy what you like, who cares what others think, particularly online strangers!

Do you not think it’s a little sad to buy something purely because it’s exclusive?

The brands Cora approves of aren't exclusive- it seems to come down to slightly more tasteful and discreet advertising.

Imabouttoexplode · 02/05/2022 18:28

Todds.
Coach.
This will divide opinion for sure but a pair of Christian Louboutin nude Pigalle 85mm is, for me, the ultimate shoe!

Gwenhwyfar · 02/05/2022 18:34

What's behind all this OP? Why aren't you good enough as you are? Who are you trying to impress?

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 02/05/2022 18:41

Gwenhwyfar · 02/05/2022 18:34

What's behind all this OP? Why aren't you good enough as you are? Who are you trying to impress?

Someone who cares 😂🤣😂

CatHerderGeneral · 02/05/2022 22:54

Thanks so much for the link - absolutely gorgeous! I was/am a huge LotR fan and these are stunning

You're welcome, I'm glad you like them! I am a LOTR fan too, my favourite is their now discontinued Smaug Destiny destiny shawl, which is black with a repeating woven pattern of viking style Smaugs in red/orange/yellow ombre. I've often worn it as a wrap with a black evening dress and amber jewellery and had so many compliments.
I probably ought to get commission for how often I recommend Oscha, but they really are so soft and beautiful, their designs really come alive.

Tillsforthrills · 03/05/2022 07:57

Gwenhwyfar · 02/05/2022 18:34

What's behind all this OP? Why aren't you good enough as you are? Who are you trying to impress?

I beg your pardon 😂 what a funny comment on the S&B threads, your comment genuinely made me laugh.

Why are you so invested in twisting the narrative so you can come on and sneer? You may not like luxury items but your posts says a lot about your character and attitude to other women.

OP posts:
Tillsforthrills · 03/05/2022 08:00

Absolutely abhor the self-righteous faux “you’re good enough as you are” which isn’t meant as it seems, it’s meant as a backhanded insult to women who enjoy fashion and the occasional luxury.

To everyone else thats commented I’ve enjoyed looking these items.

OP posts:
NeedWineNow · 03/05/2022 13:30

A really interesting thread and I am definitely going to look at some of the brands mentioned. I have already looked at Mirta on @Mercurial123 's recommendation. I am now coveting this....!

Mirella Natural - Straw and Calfskin Leather Shoulder Bag | MIRTA

NeedWineNow · 03/05/2022 13:32

Oops link didn't work in original post

Mirella Natural - Straw and Calfskin Leather Shoulder Bag | MIRTA

londonmummy1966 · 03/05/2022 16:36

For me its having a great tailor down the road who can alter clothes for a better fit and can copy favourite garments when they fall apart. Beyond that, as I said on the other thread I love things that are beautifully constructed and/or made of lovely fabrics. Consequently, I loved Lizzos outfit at the Met Gala and am about to make my third trip to the Royal School of Needlework exhibition at the Fashion Museum just to drool over the quality of the work.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/05/2022 21:39

Tillsforthrills · 03/05/2022 08:00

Absolutely abhor the self-righteous faux “you’re good enough as you are” which isn’t meant as it seems, it’s meant as a backhanded insult to women who enjoy fashion and the occasional luxury.

To everyone else thats commented I’ve enjoyed looking these items.

I didn't say 'you're good enough as you are', I asked why you think you're not good as you are. And your thread is not really about fashion and the occasionnal luxury.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/05/2022 21:41

"I beg your pardon 😂 what a funny comment on the S&B threads, your comment genuinely made me laugh.

Why are you so invested in twisting the narrative so you can come on and sneer? You may not like luxury items but your posts says a lot about your character and attitude to other women."

How is my comment funny and how am I twisting the narrative.
Style and Beauty is about looking good, but your thread has nothing to do with that so I'm trying to figure out what this is about.

Laquila · 03/05/2022 22:05

@londonmummy1966 Lizzo looked INSANE - just incredible!! If I believed in the concept of a monarchy I'd say even regal 😂

OP, this is such an interesting question isn't it? Personally I think brands such as Loro Piano will also be seen as understated luxury - I used to walk past the Sloane St one years ago, gawping in at the window. Conversely I worked for a major couture house at the time and so much of the stuff was incredibly trashy-looking to the untrained eye (moi!), but that didn't mean they didn't also have much more luxurious, "old-money" designs - more that they concentrated their marketing on what sold well at the time, and to the local market (mainly hyper UHNW Russians and Middle Easterners).

I do think there's something luxurious about in the bespoke/custom element though. I for one love the idea of having something custom-made, and of course the ethical/sustainable/artisan/small-batch approach is very popular now in certain markets and industries.

Laquila · 03/05/2022 22:09

The mention of Goyard upthread made me feel ever so slightly nauseous though - I once worked for a man who had an obsession with vintage Goyard trunks and I can't tell you how much time I spent tracking them down, bidding for them, shipping them back etc. He took it to such an extent that it leached all the enjoyment out of it (well, maybe not for him!) - he saw that kind of thing (accumulation of perceived high-value/coveted goods) very much as a measure of success and happiness but didn't actually seem to take that much pleasure in the goods themselves, if that makes sense.

PolynesianParadise · 03/05/2022 22:14

I'll tell you what's luxurious. Wearing flip flops all day, feeling the water and sand on your feet , walking your happy dog and not giving a fuck.

PestorPeston · 03/05/2022 22:28

I know a lovely lady in Shetland who makes my socks.
We all aspire to different things.

dumdumduuuummmmm · 03/05/2022 22:40

CoraPearl · 01/05/2022 09:09

Aha, I am the one who was called sneery for my use of déclassé…

There’s a saying that money shouts, wealth whispers, so for me, if I do succumb to anything, I prefer the logo to be as small as possible, if it features at all. I just don’t think having such an obvious tell on an item makes it luxurious, it does not, is just shows the wearer has money.

I guess it’s a question of what luxury means to you? For many, it just means expensive whereas I look at it more critically than that - so many luxury brands sell their wares online as well as in stores, and in vast numbers, so question if anything mass produced can ever be truly luxurious. This is why where possible, I prefer to buy from smaller brands who produce items in small numbers.

So, like PP has mentioned, Raey for clothing but it is v. expensive and I tend to buy it when there are offers on, when it’s on sale or buy it from secondhand and/or consignment sites. & Daughter is a good suggestion too but I find they don’t work for my body shape. Other smaller brands I like are The Row and Co (a small LA-based label) and have been lucky to find them reduced on consignment sites/on sale.

With regards to leather goods, well, I discount most of the fashion brands like YSL, Valentino, Dior, Chloe etc who make handbags because they were never specialists in this field. So although that leave a wide playground including very well-known brands such Louis Vuitton, Goyard, Bottega Veneta, Prada, Chanel and of course Hermès, many of these are sold online too, so to my mind, that reduces their desirability too. Factor into Chanel’s rapidly increasing prices and fall in quality, I would discount never buying new bags from them again and start looking at pre-2000 bags or older. But, there are so many other more interesting handbags to buy that are made in smaller numbers, sold on fewer platforms and not in store at all. I recall the first time I saw someone with a Wandler handbag, it really jumped out at me because it was stylish, beautiful leather and understated. I have a huge love of Lutz Morris handbags too for similar reasons. The latter’s ethics are impeccable too. I like Polene too but have yet to buy from them.

Regarding jewellery - here’s an interesting piece from Vogue about how non-branded jewellery is more sought after and considered luxurious than branded/easily recognisable/easily available pieces.

Apologies for the essay but this is a subject close to my heart - I have been involved with luxury goods in one way or another for much of my working life, so do have many opinions about this. Unfortunately, shopping in this way is expensive, so it’s a question of working out where you spend your money. Additionally, I think the whole point of something being truly luxurious is being understated, not screaming with logos, and should be under the zeitgeist, not worn by everyone or appearing on lists of aspirational items to buy as by the time something has hit the mainstream, it really is not luxurious at all. But maybe that’s just me being sneery again.

Lutz Morris does far too much 'croco': leather stamped to look like crocodile for my liking. I think fake croc looks cheap and cheesy.