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Help with daughters curly hair

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roava · 07/02/2022 10:45

Hi there

I'm looking for advice for taking care of my daughters curls and making them look amazing. She's 4 years old and has quite fine hair. If you leave it to dry naturally she has beautiful ringlets (for about an hour) otherwise some of it is straight, some wavy and some curly. As soon as she's slept on it its absolutely wild or if you mess with it all. I no experience with curly hair and I feel like I'm letting her down. Any suggestions of hair routine and particularly styling as she has to have it tied up for school

For reference she is mixed Asian and white so her hair type would be considered European I assume?

Help with daughters curly hair
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ihaveonecat · 07/02/2022 10:48

Quick post while I remember!
Hydration is essential so lots of water and conditioner
Satin/silk pillowcase
Touch it as little as possible
Dampen with leave in to restyle
Avoid silicones and brushing when dry
Paddle brush is good for detangling when hair is wet and conditioner in

LonelyMumofOne · 07/02/2022 10:52

Hello,

My son's hair, and mine, is very similar to your daughter's so I know exactly what you're talking about. What products have you used on her hair? Cantu is a brand that I would highly recommend and they're not too expensive. They have a spray that I just spray in my son's hair before nursery and the curls tighten naturally and it's not too heavy on the hair. They have a massive range of products and cater specifically to all types of curls. xx

IzzyD0ra · 07/02/2022 10:58

Silk pillow case, hair paited for bed and use a bit of Cantu curl definer or their detangler in the morning.

IzzyD0ra · 07/02/2022 11:03

Plaited*

WildPoinsettia · 07/02/2022 14:26

If it's getting frizzy I'd try a handful of mousse and a dollop of curl cream after, then comb through. This is after washing and conditioner. I like Alberto Balsam shampoo and conditioner. My hair is fine too.

I use a wide-toothed comb only when conditioner is in hair and afterwards to comb through styling products.

I wash hair every other day and leave it loose to dry naturally.

On the in-between day I do nothing to it except pick which style to put it in. It's usually a little frizzy and needing to be tied back somehow on the second day. Sometimes that's just a headband or a half-up style, other times it's looking a little bit like a birds nest and needs to go in a pony tail or twisted and clipped.

I don't understand what you're asking re styles for school. Curly hair can go in the same styles as straight hair, just don't brush it during styling like you would with straight hair. Once you've styled it though, it won't hang the same if you take out the clips/bands/whatever as it did before. The curls will kind of "set" where they were put, even if you styled the hair when dry (although more so if you styled it when wet).

Sometimes if it's messy it feels better tied back than flying around my face, so she might concentrate better in school if she finds it annoying left loose that day.

If you're wanting her hair to be "less big" at school to minimise the chance of her catching head lice, you'll need to plait it, which you can do when it's dry no need to wet it first.

But if you're saying she "needs" it tied back for school because you (or others) think big fluffy curly hair looks untidy, then whoever thinks that needs to be less prejudiced, because curly haired people have as much right to take up space in the world with their curls as anyone does with their hair. Not calling you prejudiced just pointing out that attitude is out there. Your DD needn't be ashamed of her curls or made to feel they have to be "tamed" or made to somehow lie flat to her head, that's all.

NeverAgainSam · 07/02/2022 20:07

Never brush it whilst dry. Ever. = frizz otherwise.

You may need to experiment a bit but the key is gently does it and lots of moisture.

So

  1. Washing. Ditch all the harsh shampoos. Curly hair is dry. Shampoo dries it out. So "wash" with a curly girl friendly conditioner (see below). The massaging motion is enough to clean her hair. Think of it as using a cleansing lotion on your face rather than a washing up liquid. Still as clean. Not parched and dry and frizzy
  2. Condition - you can use the same conditioner or a different one. Just make sure it is curly girl friendly. As you condition cup the hair and squish upwards several times lots to really push the conditioner into the hair. You can wide tooth comb whilst covered in conditioner as it will be slippy and protected. (brushing/combing when dry musses up the cuticle =frizz and damaged frazzled ends)
  3. Possibly leave in conditioner (5/10p size, again same conditioner is fine) combed or raked through. DId I mention curly hair needs a lot of moisture. You may find it doesn't need this. If it ends up a bit lim/curls drop maybe drop this bit. Trial and error.
  4. Product. Curly hair needs a bit of product to hold the curl, lock the moisture in and prevent frizz. You can use cheap gel, or Panten No 5 curl mousse or Eco Gel from superdrug/amazon. Or really fucking expensive gets. You need a fair blob or too. To apply - squeeze a bit of water out - but not much and apply gel/mousse to really quite wet hir. This locks in some moisture. Rake (or wide tooth comb) through. and lift hair away from the roots a bit. GIve it a bit of a shake.Then get a t/shirt or non-fluffy microfibre town and lift/squish her hair - again cup it gently from the end of the curl and kind of push/squish the curl right up to the root. You should see the curls forming. Then leave it to dry.
  5. You can dry with a dryer - but use a difusser or metal sieve to protect the curls from being blown apart. Or air dry. Either way it will dry crispy. This is good. It is like an old fashioned set. Once it is dry do the gently cupping upwards of curls with "Scrunch out the crunch". This breaks the crunchyness up leaving soft curls and ringlets.

To maintain

  1. No brushing
  2. Silk or satin pillow case
  3. Put as much hair as you can (even if only half up half down) in a pineapple/v high pony tail over night to protect the top layer of curls.
  4. In the morning take some watered down conditioner (10p blob, splish of water, rub between hands) and gently stroke over the layers. It should defrizz anything there and dry within a few minutes. It may have reactivated the gel a bit - just scrunch that out again when dry.

The aim. Moisture. Protect.

Products advice
Avoid silicons in conditioners (they initially give you shine - but by coating the hair in plastic...you lock out moisture and then you need a harsh shampoo to shift the silicon build up...drying)
Avoid harsh alcohols in products - drying.
Avoid sulphates - the foaming harsh stuff in shampoos.
Different curls/hair likes different stuff. You do not need to go expensive. Start cheap.

To see if a product is curly girl friendly (no harsh alcohol/silicons/sulphates) you can copy the list on ingredients from on line and paste into curlsbot.com.

Alot of Albero Balsam are CG friendly.

I personally, after a lot of trial and error use Faith In Nature dragon fruit conditioner to wash (it has a bit of lemon juice in it so I find it cleansing) and then Faith in Nature Rose to condition/leave in condition/touch up in the morning. I then use Umberto Gianni Curl Jelly as a product. These are all mid-price

Cantu products are loved by many. My hair hates it as it is too heavy for my fine locks.

Sorry this is so long. Hope it helps.

AnnaMagnani · 07/02/2022 20:19

Just looking at it I can see it needs more conditioner. Also get a diffuser for drying it.

Curly hair likes moisture. Like really really crazy likes moisture. It is hard to use too much conditioner.

If you love the ringlets then using gel will stop them falling out - I also have fine curly hair and what curl I get is a surprise every time I wash it.

Most gels designed for curly hair dry crunchy and then you crush out the crunchy cast and are left with soft curls held in place.

Honestly it is easiest to use products designed for curly/black hair - depending on your budget there are brands designed for children like Curly Ellie, Cantu is in most supermarkets, Alberto Balsam is cheap. There are loads of choices nowadays, unlike when I was small and it took until I was in my 30s to actually like my hair.

roava · 07/02/2022 21:02

Thanks everyone, I've purchased some cantu so will give that a go. Really useful tips and advice. She loves her curls and I hope it stays that way.

For the person suggesting I may be anti- big curly hair, I'm not at all, I just want to make sure it's cared for properly and looking beautiful. It's part of the school uniform to have long hair tied up (presumably because of nits)

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Kanaloa · 07/02/2022 21:08

This is my daughter exact hair type!! She is also mixed race, part white.

One thing I think helps most is the right haircut. She has very long hair now (such fun) but when she was small it was shorter but had to find the right curly hairdresser that wouldn’t blow dry it straight then cut it like that! Also as they’re experienced cutting curly hair they can then often give you tips of how to care for the hair.

I agree with good conditioning to stop dry/frizzy bits - it’s really worth experimenting on different products till you find the one that works best for you.

For school I used to make two plaits at the front right to the back of her head, so the plaits were just on top of her head. Not sure if that makes sense, but it allowed her hair to be neat and not falling into her eyes/whipping about while playing/getting caught while playing or changing etc. Now that she’s older she loves leaving it down but it’s too long to be left everywhere for school so she has lots of hairstyles we try for school.

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