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Help a lazy novice with skincare

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eejervis · 06/01/2022 18:56

Just turned 44 and have decided this is the year I need to establish a skincare routine. Shamefully up until now I have just been cleansing and moisturising in the morning. My skin is sensitive/prone to redness and on the dry side.

I was gifted the M&S beauty advent box which has inspired me to get into gear! So my new routine is now:

AM - cleanse with soap and glory vitamin C face wash. I've been using this for a couple of years and like it.

Moisturise with M&S pure day cream (spf 15)

PM - same cleanser
Prai 24K wrinkle repair night cream.

My questions are...I've read about double cleansing, but is that really necessary for everybody? I WFH and don't often wear makeup/not encountering pollution

Do I need a toner? I've not tried one for about 25 years, they used to make my face feel so tight but I'm sure there's better now!

I assume a serum is necessary? I do actually have the 24k prai wrinkle repair one.

Anything else?!

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LordEmsworth · 06/01/2022 19:10

Double cleansing - the first cleanse removes make-up and SPF so that the second cleanse actually cleanses your skin. If you don't wear make-up you don't need to take make-up off - but you should be wearing SPF, it's the single best thing you can do for your skin. I prefer a separate SPF on top of moisturiser just because I am pale & 15 is too low for me.

Toner - don't need; personally I use a moisturising one morning and an exfoliating one every couple of nights, but because I like it! If you're not exfoliating then I'd add an exfoliating toner in the evenings - I am using Paula's Choice at the minute but I do love the Pixi one.

Serum not necessary but very good, and if you have one then why wouldn't you try it and see how you get on?

ohidoliketobe · 06/01/2022 19:16

Double clease to remove any surface products (spf, make up) and then your second cleanse can get to work. A nice oily balm one is good for your first cleanse, body shop camomile cleansing butteris great. A little goes a long way so a tin lasts ages.
I use a hydration mist instead of a toner as my skin is really dry. It feels like an extra, pre moisturiser layer.
Serums are great for targeting specific concerns such as uneven skin tone, wrinkles. If you've got one, give it a try for a few weeks and see if it works for you

UserError012345 · 06/01/2022 20:03

OMD I could wax lyrical over skincare.

Elemis IMO do lovely cleansing balms - not cheap but QVC do many offers.

Or The Inkey List do an oat cleansing balm for £10 which is very popular.

They also do a beginners retinol.

I probably best stop there.

GettingStuffed · 06/01/2022 22:08

Double cleansing is only really needed if you wear makeup every day. I'd saying don't do too much to your skin at once or it could react badly. I'm 57 and still only cleanse and moisturise . In the evening I use a quick mask as well as night cream about twice a week. I do notice that my (luckily few) wrinkles do look less obvious when moisturised. I also use collagen drops a couple of times a week.

wonderspread · 06/01/2022 22:37

Like @UserError012345 I could likely wax lyrical, so I’ll try to keep focused to things that stand out to me as key! Ultimately different people have different priorities.

So, you want to cleanse, moisturise, and SPF. Those are your core basics. Everything else is to add other potentially beneficial stuff into your routine, according to your wants.

Now you say you have skin that is sensitive/prone to redness and dry. You might want to consider avoiding fragrance (including essential oils) and drying alcohols in your skincare. These are sensitisers, they can make your skin feel sensitive but can also make your skin become more sensitive over time.

An easy way to identify what is in a product, if you’re not familiar with names of ingredients, is to search for it on Inci Decoder (inci is the ingredients list).

For example your the Soap & Glory facial wash contains a number of fragrances. This might be sensitising your skin, as in, generally contributing to its sensitivity, it isn’t always necessarily an immediate and obvious reaction.

Common fragrances and alcohols are generically noted parfum, also limonene, geraniol, citronellol, also alcohol denat (ie denatured alcohol).

Popular ingredients in skincare that a lot of people like to include:

  • Vitamin C: great for the morning as can give a glow boost to the skin and also protects against oxidants. There are a lot of different types! Too much to go into here, but they are often serums. But, my fave is Geek & Gorgeous - practically like water, absorbs so easily, good concentration without causing sensitivity.
  • Hyaluronic acid: so many things contain this anyway, but it’s a good humectant, so helps to bring moisture into the skin.
  • Urea: can be excellent for dry skin.
(There’s loads more but trying to keep it focused!)

You don’t need the jazziest or most expensive products, but rather a consistent effective routine.

Eg, cleanse with a gentle cleanser (you’re just using it to wash, it doesn’t need to contain lots of active ingredients) like CeraVe hydrating cleanser.

Moisturise with something fairly gentle, could be also CeraVe, I also really rate Facetheory moisturisers.

Wear SPF over moisturiser during the day, at least SPF30 (you’d be surprised how often the UV rating is at least moderate in the UK, if that’s where you are).

If you’re wearing SPF then you should ideally double cleanse in the evening to break it down. I use the Inkey List oat cleansing balm followed by my regular gentle cleanser (I use Geek & Gorgeous jelly joker as I like gel cleansers, works better for my oily skin).

Moisturise again before bed.

Once you’re in a consistent routine of morning and evening skincare, albeit simple, then it’s a good time to start thinking about serums, toners etc. First, you don’t want to overwhelm your skin with loads of new products. Plus you wouldn’t be able to tell which changes are beneficial (or potentially irritating!). Secondly, you need to establish a sort of baseline for your skin before determining which other ingredients you might want or need.

The temptation is to jump all in like when someone starts a crash diet, but what you want is to build a sustainable routine providing longer term benefits.

Aaaaand I’ll stop there Blush

wonderspread · 06/01/2022 22:38

I think I waxed lyrical… (oops)

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