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Stomach muscles over 50

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DottyHarmer · 11/08/2021 11:13

Please re-direct if I’m in the wrong section…

My stomach has collapsed seemingly overnight. It’s always been slightly squishy since dcs but now is really not good. I am reasonably slim elsewhere so my stomach looks awful - it is has that “apron” thing.

No way would I have a tummy tuck - I don’t want abs of steel, just anything to stem the gravitational pull. Any good YouTube etc? (Not yoga with Adrienne - couldn’t follow beyond lesson 1 Blush ) Must be aimed at the, er, less agile participant.

Thanks!

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doorornottodoor · 11/08/2021 11:18

Pilates! That’s what you need.

dreamingofsun · 11/08/2021 11:31

were you doing the yoga positions properly? Doing them properly and slightly off can make a huge difference to the impact of them and how easy/hard they are

ExConstance · 11/08/2021 11:32

Yes, I'd second pilates, I'm 64 and have lost 3.5 stone this year. My tummy is far from perfect but pilates has rally helped my core strength and it looks flat in clothes, just a bit wrinkly without. I can wear a bikini provided the bottoms are not too tiny sio overall more pleased with progress than sad about wrinkly bits.
I do 2 pilates classes a week and a yoga class taught by the same instructor which is more like pilates than yoga as I know it. All of us in the group are very enthusiastic about the benefits.

DottyHarmer · 11/08/2021 11:38

Thank you - what sort of Pilates do I need? Is there a type which is more suited to a clumsy oaf ?

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doorornottodoor · 11/08/2021 11:41

@DottyHarmer I would go to an actual class to start with. It’s difficult to get the benefits unless you know what you’re doing. A beginners one with a good instructor. Once you know what you’re doing you could do YouTube.

doorornottodoor · 11/08/2021 11:42

I like this instructor but I’d try and get to an actual class

m.youtube.com/watch?v=NyP_waVgL1w

ExpressDelivery · 11/08/2021 11:51

I use a six pack in 30 days app. Don't panic! It has a beginner level which most definitely doesn't give you a six pack but for about 10-15 mins "most" days, on the beginner level, coupled with regular cardio and sensible eating, my 52 yo stomach is flat and has some muscle tone.

DottyHarmer · 11/08/2021 11:57

Six pack in 30 days Grin

Thanks, folks, I have searched my local area and found a Pilates/physiotherapy place. I don’t really want to do once-a-week draughty scout hut - I have done things like that before and they aren’t much benefit. Desperate and intensive measures are needed…

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dottyaboutstripes · 11/08/2021 12:30

I'm interested in Pilates too, my 50+ stomach really needs help! But I've got a bad back - I know a stronger core would help my back, but will I hurt myself at a beginners lesson do you think, oh knowledgeable ones?

ZaraW · 11/08/2021 12:39

I do a lot of yoga but also add Cross Fit Power Abs into my routine 10 minutes a day has made a difference. It's about $29 for lifetime access.

ZaraW · 11/08/2021 13:34

To get a 6 pack you need less than 20% body fat? Not much hope for most of us lol

MareofBeasttown · 11/08/2021 13:37

Marking. I don't want a six pack but just a flatter stomach. I am 50 and slimmish everywhere else.

AnotherFuckingUsername · 11/08/2021 13:45

I'd add swimming as another option - I've got to a good level of fitness and reasonable level of firmness swimming a couple of good sessions a week.

Tryingtogetitright · 11/08/2021 13:49

I recommend the "Every Mother" app. You have to pay but it's really effective - had really sorted out my poor core. I have a flatter stomach, more core strength, less back ache etc. Hope you find something that works for you.

dgirluk · 12/08/2021 08:30

@dottyaboutstripes

I'm interested in Pilates too, my 50+ stomach really needs help! But I've got a bad back - I know a stronger core would help my back, but will I hurt myself at a beginners lesson do you think, oh knowledgeable ones?
It probably depends what the matter with your back is, but I've had 2 back surgeries (2nd one was a fusion) and done Pilates for years at the physio recommendation, it really helps. My DH has a dodgy back and Pilates really helps him too.

I would find a good class and have a chat with the instructor before the class and explain your issues, and they can keep an eye on you, and give you alternatives to do for anything which stresses your back. And don't do anything which hurts (well hurts in the wrong way!).

Galassia · 12/08/2021 11:23

I prefer Callanetics to Pilates.

Galassia · 12/08/2021 11:24

This is what I do

76FDre421 · 12/08/2021 11:41

Joining this as I am also in the same boat. I tried a Pilates class at work this week and the next day I felt it in deep/core areas in which I suspect there was no muscle for years, so I definitely want to do more Pilates. I’m interested in daily 10min exercises that I could do on top of a once or twice weekly lesson, in reality I will probably only make it to an actual class once a week. I do swim a fair bit but nothing touched the core like that Pilates class did! The class itself wasn’t even that hard, so a good teacher /technique is probably key.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/08/2021 12:05

I just do standard stuff at the gym and plod around the rec every other day. All activity requires your core muscles - which inherently includes your back - and whilst it won't get rid of loose skin, it does protect the entire chain from head to toe and acts as an internal Playtex 18 hour girdle (remember those ads?) 24 hours a day.

10-20 minutes on the rowing machine at an easy pace but good technique would probably suffice, but I also target my upper back and leg muscles with weights on different visits. The plod round the rec is for fresh air, daylight, seeing a bit of greenery and the all important weightbearing exercise for bone density. Just by moving, you're performing multiple leg lifts and working the entire core in the process. Good running shoes are essential for that, though. A running shop can do gait analysis and advise the best shoe and fit.

As an aside, if I'm feeling bored and restless or waiting for DP to get out the bath so I can have a pee , I'll sometimes use the upstairs bannister like a barre and do ballet style stuff for a short time. Or I'll stand on a wobble board for five minutes because it's funny how hard it is (I have a strange sense of humour) and it helps ankle flexibility. Good for maintaining a low risk of falls as I get older, too. If I could be arsed with the weird booking system and massively inconvenient hours for the local pool, I'd swim as well, but that would be for pleasure, rather than any form of 'doing something healthy'.

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Regarding the PP's back pain

Some GPs are able to refer you to physio/gym rehab for back pain. DP hasn't needed that since I've shown him how to use a rowing machine and weights. I've also been a nag about posture and he's now aware of how he holds himself.

You could take a photo of yourself on timer standing up wearing shorts and a top, face on, side on and back to the camera. Ignore your face and figure, this isn't for the benefit of a framed photo, it's to look at the shape of your back and alignment of your skeleton. That would reveal your posture and if there are any elements that need work and could be contributing to your pain. Common things that contribute towards pain can be;

Poking your head forward.
Letting your shoulders roll forward. (if in doubt, tits out and proud is the correct way to hold them).
Overarching your lower back/tilting your pelvis backwards. Often combined with weakened outer leg muscles than mean you look knock kneed or your legs turn in.
Your feet collapse inwards at the ankle and the arch flattens out. Being straight on your feet affects the entire structure, as it means your knees are in the right position, which means your thighs are, your hips and pelvis are, your lower back is and it's easier to ensure your mid and upper back, shoulders, neck and head are where they are supposed to be.

A rough description could be that it looks like you're slumping into a C shape when it should be a nice curve. Might pick up one hip higher than the other or slight scoliosis whilst you're at it (DD2 has that, the first sign was having a narrower waist on one side than the other and her shoulder blades stuck out like little wings).

Of course, not all back pain is due to muscles, there are medical conditions such as inflammation that can cause it, but if the GP is happy that these aren't the case, chances are that it's lack of muscle tone causing the pain in the first place and making it more likely, along with the poor mechanics of posture, that any movements (don't lift, bend and twist at once, for example) can cause greater pain and injury.

Other things that may help, depending upon the cause include

Foam rolling and lacrosse balls. Possibly the most effective - and evil - things in the world. You know the sore muscle thing where if it's pressed on in just the right spot, it really, really hurts but feels good at the same time? That's what rollers and lacrosse balls can do for you, plus you are doing low impact bodyweight exercises to get the things into the right position. Don't roll into the lower back, but having it underneath your hips with your feet raised, knees bent, against the sofa or for more pressure, the wall, can help free off the muscles and regain the correct hip angle. The upper back can be rolled and the soft insides are the perfect width for encouraging your neck and head into an upright position rather than pushing forward.

Once you know what 'straight' feels like, you could then do leg bridges, raises, lifts and suchlike to get enough muscle strength to be able to exercise more.

Swimming. Or rather, moving around in water to regain flexibility and some strength, take the weight of poor posture/muscle weakness off your poor back, cooling down sore muscles or joints and having time when you aren't lifting, carrying or otherwise doing anything other than focusing on yourself and how good it feels.

Or, instead of some muppet like me evangelising about it on the internet, scrape together some cash and make appointments with a sports physio. They're great at seeing and explaining what's going wrong and what you can do to deal with it in a safe manner. Whilst instructors should be very able to spot and adapt things, for sports physios, that is their entire job - to identify problems and solutions. I have unfortunately seen some instructors who aren't that great, osteopaths who I wouldn't trust to adjust the central heating thermostat, never mind go within a mile of my back or neck, but I have never, ever met a physio who didn't know what they were doing.

TanteRose · 12/08/2021 12:31

Delurking to say what a great post that was @NeverDropYourMooncup Smile

I do "ballet" sometimes too - it's great for posture and balance!
And I swim most days

PerseverancePays · 12/08/2021 12:35

Great post Mooncup!

MareofBeasttown · 12/08/2021 12:40

I used to swim a lot pre Covid and it didn't do much for me. But I am also Asian, and genetically we carry weight on our tummies. My hips are as slim as they ever were.

5128gap · 12/08/2021 15:16

Stomach vacuums, weird but really work.
Belly busting yoga.
Holding stomach muscles in as much as possible all day, and concentrating on standing tall

dottyaboutstripes · 12/08/2021 15:24

Great post re back problems! I have scoliosis and have seen several physios. I definitely have a weak core - possibly not helped by having had lots of babies!
I'm going to look into what's available locally in terms of Pilates

DottyHarmer · 12/08/2021 18:09

Thanks for that info, @NeverDropYourMooncup . Interesting about osteopath vs. physiotherapist. I have awful neck pain caused by weak muscles, and nhs physio said I needed a good sports massage. I haven’t got round to it yet….. like all the bits of mot I need. I think my unsightly stomach will set the ball rolling, though..

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