Garnier is leaping bunny approved now.

[Fluffycloudland77]

Still owned by L’Oréal but it’s a better than not being approved.

Bollocks

@WhiskyWhiskersdottir

Bollocks

Why is it? OP's post is correct.

www.crueltyfreekitty.com/brands/garnier/

It’s bollocks because it’s the cruelty free equivalent of green washing.

Expand on your argument, because I thought it was a good thing. I know it’s not vegan already.

Go educate yourself.

@Fluffycloudland77

Expand on your argument, because I thought it was a good thing. I know it’s not vegan already.

Being able to meet the checkboxes for not testing is all very well - but they'll just do it under one of their other brands and use the technology/information gained in Garnier.

I don't use Garnier so have no interest in the brand, but it wasn't a simple procedure to get Leaping Bunny status

Leaping Bunny’s approval process is rigorous whether the approval is for a small, independent brand or a large company such as Garnier. In Garnier’s case, the approval process took over 2 years and over 500 suppliers had to be vetted.

After this initial audit, Garnier will be audited regularly in order to maintain their Leaping Bunny status and display the Leaping Bunny logo on products which demonstrates that the company is doing everything possible to be cruelty free and remove animal testing from its supply chain

So are they saying that none of the ingredients are tested on animals or the finished product isnt tested on animals 🤔

Garnier has confirmed that it is truly cruelty-free. They don't test finished products or ingredients on animals, and neither do their suppliers or any third-parties. They also don't sell their products where animal testing is required by law.

@WhiskyWhiskersdottir, ok. Good lord are you always this angry? Have you ever tried being nice or are you used to just being obnoxious until people pretend to agree with you?.

“Go educate yourself” it’s just not going to persuade anyone under 25 to your point of view is it? It’s the fuck you of retorts. I was being genuine, if you know something we don’t then you could have told us.

@Theunamedcat They are still using animal derived products but they aren’t sold in mainland China or testing any ingredients or asking suppliers to test. There was talk of Estée Lauder becoming cruelty free too last year.

I don’t use the brand because I think it’s endless permutations of glycerine and water sold under titles like “MIRACLE cream”.

@ZaraW

I don't use Garnier so have no interest in the brand, but it wasn't a simple procedure to get Leaping Bunny status

Leaping Bunny’s approval process is rigorous whether the approval is for a small, independent brand or a large company such as Garnier. In Garnier’s case, the approval process took over 2 years and over 500 suppliers had to be vetted.

After this initial audit, Garnier will be audited regularly in order to maintain their Leaping Bunny status and display the Leaping Bunny logo on products which demonstrates that the company is doing everything possible to be cruelty free and remove animal testing from its supply chain

Yes, but - 'here's the safety data from the L'Oreal tests' means that just as many rabbits can be subjected to the Draize and the information used in the development of Garnier products.

L'Oreal aren't Garnier, technically, they aren't a supplier, either. But as the parent company, they are perfectly at liberty to share the data they gain for testing formulations on animals without it affecting the Leaping Bunny Logo on the Garnier packs.

It's the cosmetic company's version of using information gained from one country conducting illegal human experimentation to produce a bulletproof vest; they didn't technically commit the atrocities themselves, none of their suppliers did, but they still benefit from the data somebody else got their hands dirty over. In my opinion, anyhow.

Sounds like a step forward as far as I'm concerned.

@WhiskyWhiskersdottir

Go educate yourself.

How incredibly rude.

I think this is good news OP. At the very least, a step in the right direction.

@NeverDropYourMoonCup Now that’s a reasoned argument & I can see that happening but hopefully more companies will stop doing it too.

@WhiskyWhiskersdottir

Go educate yourself.

What a strangely angry person you are. Sad

NeverDropYourMoonCup thank you.

It's a step forward in the right direction.
I haven't used any of their products for many years and will probably not seek them out as long as they are still part of L'Oreal but it is still positive news. I wish they would have done it sooner, by now most people who only buy cruelty free products will have found their staple products from other brands with more long standing credentials. However I can see it come in useful for example if you are on an international holiday somewhere and need to buy sun cream, shower gel etc, Garnier is easily accessible in many holiday destination's supermarkets so could be a good stand-in for situations like that.