Facial rejuvenation (jowels), where do I start?

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I'm late 30's and can start to see some sagging skin around my mouth and chin. It's not loads, but I notice it and its obviously going to get worse.

I've never had any kind of facial treatment before, so have no idea what to even look for in terms of a treatment. What could help now vs what options may be for later on?

Is anyone able to advise? My usual skincare routine is hyaluronic acid and then clinique moisture surge intense. I'm very happy with it as my skin itself looks good, it's just the structure beneath is sagging.

I live in cheshire so would welcome recommendations on anywhere that may be able to help in Cheshire/Manchester area.

Thanks

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You sound very young to be worrying about this!
There is no treatment for jowls unless you want to go for stuff like Ultherapy, Dermaroller, fillers, etc. No creams work. Personally, I'd not even think about stuff like that in your 30s, but wait until you hit your 50s or older and think about it then (at all).
No personal experience but there's a lot online.

Have you tried a facial roller? I've ordered one, just waiting for it to arrive. It's supposed to firm up your jawline.

And in answer to pp comments, it's better to start looking after your skin from your 20s and upwards. I wish I had. My skin is definitely becoming crêpey.

I didn't mean not to look after your skin @PainterInPeril. Far from it. The OP is doing that. I took it she meant where could she find treatments - surgery , fillers, etc- to reduce her jowls.

• @JinglingHellsBells* it's ok, I understood what you meant. I was replying to the bit where you said she was young to be worrying about it! The facial roller is very simple, cheap, and a no-needle/surgery way of helping define your jawline. At least, that's what I've heard. If it doesn't work, I shall sue someone!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/4144994-Anyone-recommend-a-micro-current-device?msgid=104379319#104379319

See this thread about micro current devices. I've only just started using one so not sure if it will make any difference (my jowls are quite bad) but worth a try 🤷‍♀️ Expensive but less spendy than a face lift and not invasive!

Interesting, thanks all, I will investigate further!

I'd much rather start sorting this now so that it doesn't look as obvious having a facelift in my 50s. I'm also not after creams as they couldn't possibly penetrate the skin to any useful depth.

I think its definitely possible to start to see sagging and jowels in your 30s, especially if you have had fluctuations in weight, sunbathe or spend a lot of time looking down at phones etc. Sometimes its genetic too.
You know your face OP and know if this is an issue.
A lot of people swear by ultratherapy for mild sagging but if it's more severe PDO threads do the trick and last up to 2 years. I was a lot older when I first had threads but wish they'd been around when I was younger as I hated my jowels for 10 years.
I agree creams are useless for sagging.

You haven't said anything about whether you live healthily but obviously the better you eat/drink/exercise etc, the better you'll look. You probably know all that anyway, though.

I'm a healthy weight, no fluctuations aside from a couple of pregnancies, never smoked, rarely drink, exercise regularly

@5128gap I've just looked at PDO threads on IG! That looks amazing and scary at the same time. I can definitely see myself going down that route at some point. How much did it cost? Can you feel the threads?

I initially paid £600 for two threads, one each side, to lift the central part of my face. It worked really well on the nose to mouth lines and gave some lift to jowls too.
I wanted a more sculpted chin though so went back and had another two along the jaw and was delighted with the overall effect.
I'm in my 50s and feel happier with my face than I have since I was 30.
I can't say it was pain free, but I'm not very brave and it was tolerable, local anesthetic goes in with the thread which helps. The slight pain comes from the pulling of the skin into place but it's very quick.
Theres some discomfort afterwards. I have barbed threads and you can feel them for a couple of months until they dissolve, not all the time, but sometimes when you move your face a certain way.
It's more weird than unpleasant though.
I think its absolutely worth it and will definitely have them again when I need to.

Look at face gym on Instagram, they have branches in London but they put up videos sometimes showing you exercises to do that help,
I saw one during lockdown 1 & you should have seen the before and after photos that people were sending in, just 10 mins of face massaging a day made a huge difference!

This has been exactly what I needed, thank everyone.

I've looked at all your suggestions and am thinking of trying the dermal roller first, and then maybe see about threads in a year or two. £600 every couple of years seems like a very good investment. The devices look good but I know it would end up buried in a draw after a while. At least the dermaroller is cheap!

Someone I know (of) went to the Cosmetic Skin Clinic (Google) and they have a full range of treatments on the website so you can get a good idea of what's around.

£600 for threading is very cheap. Many people pay more than that for a touch of fillers (again, no personal experience but reading online etc.) I've heard it's more like £2K from the best cosmetic drs and you don't want to risk it going wrong, which it can.

@JinglingHellsBells

Someone I know (of) went to the Cosmetic Skin Clinic (Google) and they have a full range of treatments on the website so you can get a good idea of what's around.

£600 for threading is very cheap. Many people pay more than that for a touch of fillers (again, no personal experience but reading online etc.) I've heard it's more like £2K from the best cosmetic drs and you don't want to risk it going wrong, which it can.

The full cost was £1200 as I ended up going back for two more threads after the initial mid face lift. The cost depends on the number of threads used and was £300 per thread. The person who did it is a doctor, I researched beforehand, and all above board. The clinic is lovely, and so is she. Fillers start at around £150 for 0.5ml and botox one area is about £100, with free top up, so it is reasonable. It was in Birmingham, so perhaps that makes a difference cost wise.

@5128gap Do you mind sharing the name of where you had the threads please? I'm looking at having it done and Birmingham is not too far from me. TIA

[quote Oblahdeeoblahdoe]@5128gap Do you mind sharing the name of where you had the threads please? I'm looking at having it done and Birmingham is not too far from me. TIA[/quote]
I have sent by PM as not sure I'm allowed to endorse it on here.

Fillers start at around £150 for 0.5ml and botox one area is about £100, with free top up, so it is reasonable.It was in Birmingham, so perhaps that makes a difference cost wise.

At the Cosmetic Skin Clinic, fillers start at £400 . The person I read about had 1ml each side and it was £800.

Big difference in regions!

Thank you @5128gap!

@JinglingHellsBells

Fillers start at around £150 for 0.5ml and botox one area is about £100, with free top up, so it is reasonable.It was in Birmingham, so perhaps that makes a difference cost wise.

At the Cosmetic Skin Clinic, fillers start at £400 . The person I read about had 1ml each side and it was £800.

Big difference in regions!

Wow. That is a lot. Interesting, as I am genuinely very happy with the service I've had, and have had all of the above treatments without a single issue. I've had bad botox elsewhere in the past, that I paid more for, so I think to some extent it's not always that you get what you pay for. It's a bit risky until you find someone you trust, so wherever you go I'd suggest a less invasive treatment with them first. For example light botox that you know will wear off, or fillers that can be dissolved if you're not happy.

@WaveOverMe Alice Hart Davis is a beauty journalist who has tested a huge range of all these treatments- she's a book out on it and is also interviewed on the website of the Cosmetic Skin Clinic in some of their videos.

Might be worth looking at.

I still think that at 30-odd you sound on the young sound for the kind of treatments you are talking about. But good luck anyway.

@5128gap could you let me know which clinic you went to please?

[quote Longlist]@5128gap could you let me know which clinic you went to please?[/quote]
Certainly. Sent by PM.