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Depop - trusting designer

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Littlefrizz123 · 10/01/2021 10:35

Hi all,

Sorry if this is a silly question. I'm trying to get myself some new pieces as I literally own 2 pairs of old running leggings and 5 primark tops (stopped taking care of myself completely after some MH issues).

I've got Depop as trying not to buy new or fast fashion but still stick to a budget and there's a lovely Gucci belt, well worn but I would make good use of it. I was just wondering if you just trust that the seller is genuine or if there is some way of telling a real from a fake?

I'd be really grateful for any advice, I haven't bought myself anything in 2 years so I'm going in blind really!

Thank you x

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Littlefrizz123 · 10/01/2021 10:38

On an unrelated note, if anyone could point me in the direction of a reasonably priced virtual stylist I'd be very grateful x

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SummaLuvin · 10/01/2021 10:47

I would be nervous on Depop buying designer as it isn't regulated and checked. I would check other resale sites like Vestiaire Collective to get an idea of what the price you would expect to pay is, if it is far far below this on Depop I would steer clear. Could you ask the seller to show a receipt? Could you ask to see a picture of the belt showing its 'leather credentials'?

On virtual stylist, I have no experience. But a YouTube/blogger reviewed a few popular online personal shoppers and found the best by far was a paid for service, Estilistas. This blogger is very very particular so other people may have more success than she did with the lower priced options. Video below.

Littlefrizz123 · 10/01/2021 18:49

@SummaLuvin thank you, I will take a look at the blog, just need somewhere to get started so I don't spend money on things that don't suit me!

Will steer clear of designer for now on Depop. It's a nice idea but I can get similar things for less! Thank you for your advice

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Chel098 · 10/01/2021 18:52

Has the seller got good reviews? Or a receipt? I suppose it depends how much the seller would like for the item.

yaboo · 12/01/2021 05:51

I'm not trying to be an arsehole, but it sounds like you need a bit more than a well-worn Gucci belt, babe. And if you're 'conscious of sticking to a budget' too, then it doesn't sound like you have the cash to be frittering on personal stylists, either... unless you're seriously loaded, get yourself down to Primark and get yourself a whole new wardrobe for £250, and once you have some actual clothes to wear, then worry about things being 'ultra ethical'.

This whole, sneery, 'your clothes are made in sweatshops' shit annoys me. Don't let rich journalists guilt you into believing you have to live in second-hand rags and a trip to Primark is akin to murdering small babies. It's rubbish.

Unless you're rich AF, you can't really avoid fast fashion. Yeah sure, you can buy 'pre-loved' from places like Vinted, Depop, Ebay, charity shops, but after you've been stung a few times by unethical individual sellers who've sent you their ultra-skanky clothes that smell of pee, or sweat, or you've received the 'adihash fakes', or once you've realised those 'Boyish' jeans and 'People Tree' trousers are just too pricey to wear for scrubbing baking trays or wiping up old lady poop in your minimum wage job, you start looking again at Primarni basics and there is nothing to be ashamed of in that.

Primark, actually, ain't that bad. In fact, if we can believe what they say on their website about ethics and sustainability (and with the amount of citizen journalist justice warriors in the world we'd sure know about it if they were blatantly lying), they're trying really hard to make sure there's less ugliness in their supply chain after the Rana Plaza disaster.

There's nothing 'more' wrong with Primark, George at Asda, or TU at Sainsburys than, say, COS, or Free People, or Anthropologie, or Monsoon. Most clothes are industrially made in massive factories, usually in countries where people get paid less than their UK counterparts, even 'high fashion' luxe brands like your Gucci's, Prada's, and Louis Vuitton. Louis Vuitton was in Rana Plaza, too. Just like Matalan and Primark. Even Parisian Couture is dodgy AF, with garments often 'hand finished' by immigrant labour being paid under the table in back-street Paris sweatshops. I know that happens in Paris, as I researched it all when I was writing a novel about, funnily enough, Paris couture.

So, unless you're rich AF, you can't really avoid fast fashion. And even then, you can't quite be sure.

I went and had a look at various current lists of ethical suppliers that ship to the UK. (listed in 'Cosmopolitan', 'The Guardian', and various 'ethical blogs').There's lots of them, sure, but wow, how 'expensive' it is to be so righteous.

£350 for a 'recycled polyester skirt'. £150 for a pair of 'jogging bottoms' made from, yep, polyester. £50 for a basic cotton jersey bra and knicker set. £220 for a pair of 'ethically produced' screen printed poly-cotton palazzo pants.

Can ordinary people afford that?

An ordinary waitress, or a low-paid care assistant, or a student nurse, or a single mother in a part-time job?

Nope.

Even if you were a... manager of a local supermarket on 34K? Or a police officer earning 26K a year? I doubt it. Not when you think about the mortgage, utility bills, car, phone, internet, vets bills, food bills, all the other bills people have to pay? Nah.

I reckon most of the shoppers on MN shop at places listed on this list...

www.curiouslyconscious.com/2020/07/fast-fashion-brands-uk.html/

Mark and Spencer score well, apparently. Even though every time I buy something from M&S (via Ebay, of course), it says it's made in Sri Lanka, or Cambodia or Vietnam. The H&M 'conscious' collection scores okay, according to 'curiously conscious', but H&M don't publish ALL their info, and so how can we really tell? Does H&M tell the truth? Does Primark lie? Are they all liars? I don't know about you, but I just want a decent set of loungewear...

Amongst the 'fast' fashion suppliers, Primark, at least, on the face of it, are trying. See this...

www.primark.com/en/primark-cares/code-of-conduct

You can also do a 360 degree tour of a factory. If you bother, you'll see... clean, modern looking factories. They're not slums, with hungry people hunched over dangerous looking machinery. I've personally worked in shittier conditions. There's Working Time directives, freedom to join a union, fair pay, no child labour, Modern slavery legislation in line with the EU rights systems, gender based violence training schemes, etc, etc: Primark ain't as bad as some people make them out to be, I reckon so... fill your brown bag and be happy. Just don't do it too often, yeah?

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Plonque · 12/01/2021 14:53

Yep, yaboo has got it right. In your shoes you need a whole pile of good basics not expensive belts when you have nothing to wear them with.

SummaLuvin · 12/01/2021 15:04

Are you ok @yaboo? You say you're not trying to be an arsehole but that essay was a little over the top. I get the preachy 'ethical' people are annoying, but OP asked a straight forward question about buying second-hand clothing items in a fashion forum, not like she was shoving it down anyones throat.

We all do what is reasonable and practical for us to do, and if for OP that is buying second hand 85%, ethically sourced new 10%, and fast fashion new 5%, then great for them. Other people might find that unrealistic which is also fine.

Also, it's not just 'sweat shops' that's the problem with fast fashion, it's the environmental impact. Forest areas being turned over to cotton production, chemicals used going into water sources, micro-plastics in the oceans, and of course the environmental costs of these being transported all over the world.

ShalomToYouJackie · 12/01/2021 15:29

I think Yaboo works for Primark Grin

Littlefrizz123 · 12/01/2021 18:32

Hi all, I'm sorry if I came across as preachy, that wasn't my intention. I was hoping that I could get some style advice as I don't have any sense of what goes together or what colours suit me etc. I had saved for this but you're right it would be a waste.

I will look at Primark when they reopen, apologies again if my OP upset anyone I clearly have a lot to learn about the clothing industry. Was just trying to get a few bits that would make me feel good as it's been a rough time lately x

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ShalomToYouJackie · 12/01/2021 19:58

You don't need to apologise at all OP, you buy what ever you want.

It's great that you're now feeling ready to get some new clothes. In regards to these Depop seller, check out their reviews and maybe see if they've got any proof of purchase although maybe not if they've had it a while

Floisme · 12/01/2021 20:36

You didn't sound at all preachy op and I'm sorry you've been having a rough time Thanks

One point yaboo made that I do agree with is that people on a limited income with very few clothes shouldn't feel guilty for buying cheap. I buy a lot of second hand for all sorts of reasons but then I already have loads of clothes and I'm mostly looking for better versions of what I've got already. Trying to build up a whole wardrobe that way could take forever.

In your shoes I would first stock up with basics from the cheap end of the high street and from supermarkets, and then start thinking about second hand / ethical suppliers for upgrading.

Re the belt, I do get why you might want to buy something like that and again in your shoes, I might decide how much I could afford to spend on a couple of 'luxury basics' and put that money to one side. I'm sorry I've never used Depop so can't advise on that.

XingMing · 12/01/2021 20:42

I agree that you need decent everyday basic clothing to get going. If you are an 'ordinary' size, then Uniqlo is a good website to start on for T-shirts, knitwear and possibly jeans. Not the very cheapest, but ethically sound AFAIK, plus their stuff usually washes and wears well. Then you'll have something to put a Gucci belt on!

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