Messy bun

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Morning all!
Had my hair in a bun for years (hate my long hair and can’t do anything with it as it’s so thick and frizzy) anyway, how do I perfect a messy bun? When I try it looks frizzy. I have to have it tight (think ballet dancer) but I would love to be able to do a messy bun.
Please help!
Thank you

Get it cut short?
Why have long hair if you hate it?

I’ve suggested short but it’s that thick and curly it’ll end up like a mushroom!! Honestly it really gets me down, I’d love it short but would be gutted if it went mushroom like

You should buy a donut sponge (chemists or primark) and wrap hair around it. Then play with hair pulling strands out.

I’ve got one of those but ended up looking like Linda from eastenders! I need to practice with it I think.

You need a really good hairdresser who really understands curls, short needn't mean mushroom! I'm not curly myself, but come from a very curly family- honestly a proper curl specialist is a game changer!

Following. I too seem to have a choice of long or mushroom 🤪 or hours with the ghd’s. One long hair option I sometimes use instead of a bun is a long plait, or after it’s washed wind into a low bun, secure with a baby sock and sleep in it. In the morning I have slightly better behaved curly hair with this method

I’ve got similar hair and I’ve bought myself a GHD Glide - game changer! Takes me 5 minutes to have smooth, non-frizzy hair in the morning now.

For a messy bun I gather all my hair up on top of my head, not too tightly and I don’t wind the hair round into a bun shape, if that makes sense! Just sort of hold it up and then use a hairband to shove it into a bun. I then use a second hairband to secure, and tease bits of hair out around my face/the bun.

I’m howling !!! I also have the mushroom / long choice
I coat my hair with Pantene conditioner, leave twenty minutes and rinse... good hairdryer with a massive round barrel brush. Then tie up, messy looks better when the hair is smooth I think.

That’s what I struggle with, can’t get it smooth unless I straighten it but it takes over an hour to straighten with ghd’s and I don’t have the time (or patience) when I have a toddler running round!

When I was little mum chopped off my past the bum length ringlets, cut to my ears and it looks bloody awful! It looks mushroom crossed with LEGO man hair 😂

Hair in pony, back comb the middle a little , wrap round and clip in place with bobby pins :)

I have mixed afro hair (as am mixed) but this might work for you as well. I spray with water and , leave in conditioner in the evening and put it into two plaits then in the morning use fingers to comb (not properly) and pull into a pony tail then twist the hair round. Gives me sort of fake defined waves which look non frizzy. Also means my takes minutes in the morning.

The key to a messy bun is texture so it's better on second day hair with a bit of dry shampoo, and maybe even a little bit of backcombing.

I tend to do: head upside down, grab hair roughly with splayed fingers and roughly pull the hair through. Secure with a strong bobble and secure loose bits with a second small one and pins. Pull out around the face, nape and crown. Hairspray.

Maybe that’s where I’m going wrong, I’m not using pins, I use another bobble to secure it.

Have you tried something like this?

@justilou1 thank you for the video, just watched it. I have super thick hair, I think it would be good for using the day after I’ve initially straightened it but I don’t think I’d get the look of a straightener just using that baby itself. Might see if I can test one and see what it’s like

I use a smallish donut as my hair is fine and roughly wrap it round. I use tiny claw clips (from Primark) to secure the hair randomly as near to the donut as possible so they are pretty much invisible.

See if you can try one somewhere. I have one, but my hair is different. (Mine’s super-fine - like cat hair, but lots of it.) It’s been a game-changer for me. I have friends with Mega-thick hair (course) who also love it. I still wouldn’t recommend buying anything until you’ve tried it, though!