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A Christmas wish list includes gel nail polish dryer - advice pls

23 replies

SWnewstart · 29/11/2019 21:28

I have no idea where to start, there's a bewildering choice out there! Any suggestions please for a decent UV (or LED???) gel nail polish dryer for a maximum of £30.

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Pipandmum · 29/11/2019 21:31

Its UV LED. Look on amazon there are many top rated and a couple in your price bracket.

AWafferthinmint · 29/11/2019 21:35

LED is much faster than UV, if that helps!

scrabblecrazy · 29/11/2019 21:36

Groupon and Wowcher often have these kits, very reasonable with the polish and wipes etc, could be worth looking there too

SWnewstart · 29/11/2019 21:39

Well that's two slightly conflicting responses for a start! So there are UV ones and LED ones, with LED being quicker to dry the polish then? And it's fine looking on Amazon etc but still doesn't really help a complete "novice" in this field! Personal recommendations if at all possible Smile

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Happycow · 29/11/2019 21:46

Have a look at this:

UV LED Nail Lamp, Terresa 72 Watt Faster Nail Dryer for Gel Polish, Nail Light with 3 Timer Setting, Salon Quality Professional Gel Lamp, Automatic Sensor Nail Art Tools for Fingernail and Toenail www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07PRFPLNJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Xfz4DbDVJRT47

I have this and i like it. I think LED is best, and rhe higher the wattage the better (my old one was 26w and didnt actually set half of my colours!)

Ffsseriously · 29/11/2019 21:53

You have to match the lamp to the gel polish it is really important. Uncured gel polish leads to really nasty allergies. So you will need to get the lamp that matches whichever gel polish you use. And you want led not uv, led cures in half the time and is generally more modern

AWafferthinmint · 29/11/2019 21:54

SUN X5plus 80W Professional LED UV Led Nail Lamp Light Nail Dryer Gel Curing rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F133196204094 this is the one I have which works well.

SWnewstart · 29/11/2019 22:14

That's more like it - thank you. Will check out all suggestions and hopefully get it sorted. One more tick on my To Do list!

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Ffsseriously · 29/11/2019 22:57

Sorry but no lamp dries any polish it just doesn't work like that.

Sherbertx · 30/11/2019 12:58

@Ffsseriously well it does , because it has, and I use it all the time 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sherbertx · 30/11/2019 13:00

Hence why in a salon they have only ONE lamp, regardless if you choose normal polish, gel ,whatever

Ffsseriously · 30/11/2019 17:41

@Sherbertx gel polish feels cured at 50% cured. Seriously do a small bit of research, it has been highlighted as a problem by doctors etc.

Ffsseriously · 30/11/2019 17:42

UV LAMPS EXPLAINED
Chemists recommend that you use the UV lamp supplied by the gel manufacturer. If you don't, there is a risk of heat spikes or there is also a greater risk that you can develop an allergy.

Light has two components - wavelength which gives us different colours and brightness.

With UV lamps, there are two main wavelengths - 365 nanometers which cures older gels, and 405 nanometers which cures gel polishes and newer LED-UV gels.

Each UV lamp produces a different level of brightness - what has the scientific name of "UV Illuminance". That's because there is no industry standard, and because the brightness is affected by the type of light generation device used, how far this device is to the nails (brightness decreases with distance light using a torch outside), and also the quality of the reflectors.

The Wattage i.e. 36W, has no real meaning of brightness. Watts indicate the amount of electricity used.

So if you test the brightness of 10 different 36W UV or LED-UV lamps, the brightness of all will be different. In the same way that 10 different 1000cc car engines produce different amounts of power and use different amounts of petrol.

GEL CHEMISTRY IS COMPLICATED
If that is not complicated enough, different gels use different types and amounts of photoinitiator chemical. This is the chemical in the gel or gel polish that makes the product hard (polymerised) with UV light.

An analogy would be trying to bake bread with an unknown amount of yeast, in an oven whose temperature you can't control.

So when a chemist develops a new gel, they make this compatible with the UV lamp that the company sells. They test that the gel cures correctly and they will also measure the amount of exothermic heat produced during curing. If necessary they can reduce the amount of photoinitiator to make the gel curing cooler - but this will affect other features of the gel too.

If the company later wants to introduce a new UV lamp, it must have the same wavelength(s) and brightness as the original UV lamp, or all of the gels and gel polishes will have to be reformulated.

The cost and time to test all gels and gel polishes, is why serious brands only offer one type of UV lamp.

RISK OF ALLERGIES
Now if you use a UV lamp that doesn't cure the gel correctly and the gel is under cured, that will produce under-cured gel dust when you file. This is now thought to be the #1 cause of nail product allergies - by experts such as the British Association of Dermatologists and other scientists.

This, and people using different brands of gels and gel polishes in unmatched UV lamps, are though to also be the reason why the number of reported allergies has increased dramatically the past years.

If someone gets a nail product allergy, it is for life. In addition, because similar acrylates are used in dentistry and some bone surgery, this can make some health treatments very difficult.

(Image courtesy of NAILS magazine)

Edited to add additional source of information:

www.bbc.com/news/health-45129280

Ffsseriously · 30/11/2019 17:43

The above is copied from a chemist who develops lamps and polish for the big firms

Ffsseriously · 30/11/2019 17:47

Image of gel polish allergy

Ffsseriously · 30/11/2019 17:55

More info from the same expert

To ensure that a specific UV lamp correctly cures a gel or gel polish, requires testing by a chemist in a laboratory. There are three different tests that can be done - it is the chemists personal preference which they use. But all require specialist equipment.

A company that can afford to hire a chemist and develop unique products, probably has the resources to make such a test. They can also afford to supply a UV lamp.

A company that private labels its products from a factory, has no access to a chemist or laboratory, probably doesn't do this.

There is an old myth in the industry that many brands, educators and NT still believe. That if you put a blob of gel on a form and cure it, remove it from the form and the underside is not sticky - then the UV lamp has correctly cured the gel.

This is false. Gels are hard enough to file when only 50% to 55% cured. The ONLY way to know if a UV lamp correctly cured the gel, is in a lab.

Hence one of the potential reasons for the big increase in allergies - many UV lamps sold are not fully curing the gels and gel polishes.

Mauroz1966 · 30/11/2019 18:29

@Sherbertx a led/UV lamp is for gel polish and a nail dryer is for normal polish.

Sk96 · 01/12/2019 11:03

I have the BellaNails one from Amazon. It's an LED and it works great. I think it was under £30.

amymel2016 · 01/12/2019 11:07

This one is brilliant OP, really safe and works perfectly. As others say, you’ll need to use the same brand of nail polish with it.

www.boots.com/sensationail-all-stars-rose-gold-gel-polish-starter-kit-10272399

ThanksForAllTheFish · 01/12/2019 12:04

I’m sure Aldi have one coming out next week for about £30. I will go check the leaflet now And report back.

ThanksForAllTheFish · 01/12/2019 12:17

Out Thursday

A Christmas wish list includes gel nail polish dryer - advice pls
Ffsseriously · 01/12/2019 22:15
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