Before I resort to a perm - what is ‘ladies texturising’ at Toni and Guy?

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Can anyone explain what it is?

I have fine, flat hair and am forever looking for techniques to give it hold and texture. But really I’d like something that doesn’t involve loads of product daily that I desperately need to wash out the same day.

I am seriously considering a perm, if nothing else, then to atleast be able to put my hair up in a bun without it sagging and looking like sad puppy ears.

Is this ‘texturising’ treatment a better alternative? Is it a (semi) permanent thing and suitable for fine hair?

I haven’t seen it listed on other salons, and googe just brings up texturising products in general.

I don’t want to ring and ask incase they talk me into it (easily done) and it just be a waste of money.

We're just giving this a bump for you, OP.

Can you call them and ask 1. How long it usually lasts and 2. Which products they use. If you knew the products maybe you could google and get more info?

I've not heard of that particular trearment but I have heard nothing but bad things about Toni and Guy in general so I would avoid on that basis alone.

I agree you should call them and ask.

(Also can you come back and tell us because now I need to know what it is!)

I want to know too!

I would avoid T and G like the plague. You need a decent haircut that will hold its style. Depending on your hair type what you want might not be possible. Find a really good salon and ask for a consultation.

www.stylecraze.com/articles/hair-texturizing/

Seems like it's a milder version of chemical straightening.

There is a treatment they do in hairdressers called texturing perm. I have the same typ of hair as you so looked into it a few years ago but my hairdresser advised against it, said it can really ruin your hair. My mum also had one when she was much younger, said it only lasted a couple of weeks but was expensive. Might be a bit different now. Try YouTube might be a review on there.

Do not cross the threshold of Toni and Guy - especially not for a perm. They are the world's worst hairdressing chain - one cut fits all wonders. You'd be better off getting a Toni home perm from the chemists - you'd need to time travel back to the 80's to achieve this but it would be better.

A good, independent salon will not push you when you go for a consultation. Where are you OP?

Thanks for the bump lily

Hmm sounds like it might not be for me from that loaf my hair is too straight already.

I’m not sure what kind of haircut would work, if any, as my hair just has zero shape. The front of it doesn’t shape my face at all it just hangs straight. I’ll see if I can find a photo of someone with similar hair.

I’m in Derby Dame. I had a cut there years ago and they seemed ok but I don’t have anything adventurous. I always ask hairdressers for advice, but apart from daily products and blow drying, not had much more advice than that. Nothing lasts more than a couple of hours though, so that’s why I was thinking of a more ‘permanent’ treatment.

On a thread a while back, someone posted they’d had a perm, and the damage actually left the hair with better texture (paraphrasing but along those lines).

Texturising is for afro hair. Like relaxing but is left on for less time. Don't do it if you don't have Afro hair

Definitely not for me then newbie, my hair is the anti-afro. I thought it just meant adding texture.

Just ordered some tigi products I’ve not tried yet, lets see what they can do for me.

Ask your hairdresser (please not Toni and guy) about a texturising perm. They aren't the perms of old. Kind of the opposite of a keratin blow dry (super straight). It's still a chemical treatment so if you've got colour they may say no, but most will understand if they're good. It should not be cheap.

Our local independent salon sacked a stylist, after six months, for repeatedly and disastrously ruining clients' hair, and for being dishonest about her training and experience; she then went to work for T&G. I thought fair enough, she's lied to them too, they'll find out soon enough that she's terrible. But she's been there now for over a year. Maybe she's improved dramatically but I doubt it.

Chemically damaging hair can give fine hair texture but personally as a hairdresser I would be looking at highlights rather than any type of perm which most hairdressers under 30 have little to no experience of and can easily fuck the hair up.
Babyliss mini crimpers can give you texture and lift at the roots - it's fiddly and obviously has to be done daily or the big roller brush is good along with backcombing.
Fine hair really is a PITA