Botox and/or fillers? Microblading? Give me your wisdom!

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Considering going for it; the 11s (mild) and marionette lines (deep).
Retinoids, AHAs and rigid spf use has done wonders for me for the past 2 years but now I'm ready for more.
I'm 46 and on a sensible weightloss journey, went from size 20/22 to size 16 in the past 15 months, hoping to be a 12/14 by summer. I'm very fair/blonde and acne prone (hormonal).
Have basically no eyebrows, over plucked like everyone else in the 90s. In my teens they were amazing.
How do I find someone good in London or Oxfordshire?
My biggest fear is ending up with the dreaded joker smile from marionette line treatment ... It's fillers that can do that, isn't is?

Botox for the 11s.
Cheek fillers for the lines - pulls everything up and puts the scaffolding back in!
Vit c, retinol, acids and spf for tone and texture.
Well done on weight loss too. That's quite some achievement 💪

Thank you!
Cheek fillers for marionette lines, really?
I already have cheeks like the moon ...

Ha! Well without seeing you, it's hard to say but typically, at 46, you'll be losing the plumpness/bounce/elastin in your face and gravity will be dragging everything down. Add in significant weight loss on top and you'll be losing that lovely firmness. You can inject filler directly into the marionette lines but it's usually better to address it by adding volume higher up in the face.

Well contrary to advic on here, I got my eyebrows microblad this week a and I love them 😍😍

Well done on all the positive changes you’re making.

I’ve occasionally seen good eyebrows but choose very carefully.

I’d be very wary about the rest. If Madonna with all her money looks like an overstuffed pillow what hope for the rest of us.

Yes, you do have to be careful but Madonna etc have seriously overdone it.

You have to keep it topped up though don’t you. And then the eyebrows creep further up the forehead and the cheeks bulge like a hamster and before you know it you’re the lovechild of Bride of Wildenstein and Carol Vorderman.

Botox is fab but fillers scare the bejesus out of me, not only how awful they look on celebs but the small but real risks involved.

Maybe try having very small amounts to start with so you can see some of the effects without huge commitment/change for the first visit? You can always go back and have a top-up after a month or so. I think trying to fix all the things all in one go is part of the problem with overdoing it (and looking obvious). You want to aim for refreshed, not rebooted

Thanks all!
I like a straight brow, so much more youthful looking than arched.
Good points about everything. I understand and don't mind keeping it up, hey, I could be gone in five years (or one)!
I already have the hamster cheeks, well fed and well covered unlike some anorexic/orthorexic superstars. Intend to be very sublte about it, doubt anyone will really notice except me. I still want to look my age, just more like I've just had 5 good years and not 5 shit ones.

If you're just having Botox for your 11s, then your eyebrows don't creep anywhere.

If you do get work done make sure you get it from a registered doctor, dentist or nurse or someone on an Accredited Register (ie the JCCP’s register or the Save Face register). Did you know anyone can offer Botox or Fillers? They don’t have to be a medical professional and they don’t have to have had any training. If you go to someone on the registers I mentioned then you know they have met set training requirements.

I think with marionette lines, it can look unnatural when the filler is taken all the way up the crease to the nose. A natural little crease by the nose and cheek is normal (and I think attractive, if you look at some of the young, current top models some have it naturally, and obviously that's not due to age), it would be unnatural to try to iron out the line the whole length as it would lose some of the natural contours of the face. The bottom half of the line is more where it needs attention but I think from what I have seen, that conservative amounts initially look best to see how a little bit looks. Maybe best done by someone specialising in cosmetic aesthetics rather than as a sideline to beauty, and with lots of experience in subtle, balanced placement of fillers/botox etc for the more mature person?

There is a young, "obvious" type look amongst some younger clients/beauticians where obvious fillers, cheeks, lips etc are a badge of honour, but if you are in your 40s and want it to look better but not obvious then I personally wouldn't want to go to a young beautician who does it as a sideline along with eyebrows/eyelashes etc. (This is just my opinion/observation).

Great points, thank you all.
The practitioner I have in mind is a mature nurse who does nothing else, at a fancy clinic, and prices to match.
Only wish I knew someone who's been but most of my friends are disgusted by the idea that anyone's using anything but hand soap and water on their face, never mind bleaching teeth or using spf!